What Training Have You Done Today?

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby Dangerscouse » July 12th, 2018, 8:25 am

@ Rod, solid effort...you'll have to do it again! :wink:

@ Hobbit. Well done. In my experience a cut up yoga mat in a pillow case is just as good and a lot cheaper, and I found that you do get used to it too. I don't have any soreness for anything less than 2 hours. Although having said that some people's physiology is naturally better suited to the seat

I agree with Paul re the shorter PR attempts and don't use anything if you are going to really increase the power as I have found the slight elevation causes me to leave the seat and end up sitting on the rail! It's happened a few times
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby mdpfirrman » July 12th, 2018, 9:13 am

@ Rod - as always, I'm pretty awestruck by what you do.

As far as padding, I tried thick foam early on, made it worse. I have this foam pad now -- it's cheap and just enough thickness not to affect power/performance and it has prevented any soreness on my rear since I've had it. The only negative reviews sound like people who have never rowed that want a mattress between them and the seat. It's just enough thickness and never slides very much.

https://www.amazon.com/Hornet-Waterspor ... g+seat+pad
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby Rod » July 12th, 2018, 11:23 am

Hobbit.............. Thanks and well done on the 2:16.5 paced hour, it got you a little higher in the rankings than you thought you’d get. Good luck with climbing them with the next one!

Here’s the seat pad I use;

http://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/a ... s/seat-pad

Gammmmo…..........kind of you to say…..the stroke rate just feels natural, I don’t know why but any lower just doesn’t seem to work!

Dangerscouse……….......Cheers and yes…..in about 2 weeks….oh what fun!

mdpfirrman…………….Thanks Mike……I’m hoping the next one will be faster….I’m in trouble if it’s not as I need to ‘’bed in’’ a decent cruising pace if I’m going to do a decent HM (I’ve been talking about it for too long now so it’s gotta happen by September or that’s it for this year…and as I’m 61 in September there may not be much of a chance next year!)
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby Bloodbuzz Corio » July 12th, 2018, 1:46 pm

@hobbit - great stuff on the hour - you mentioned this was your first hour - was it also your longest erg?

@rod - impressive as always! What spm do you do your shorter pieces (like a 2k) at?

Also an hour for me today - 14,017m (2:08.4) @ 17.8spm.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby hobbit » July 12th, 2018, 2:15 pm

Bloodbuzz Corio wrote:@hobbit - great stuff on the hour - you mentioned this was your first hour - was it also your longest erg?


Thanks! Yes it was my longest so far, although I've run 16k and HM's long ago. I found that feeling of happily cruising along at close to my limit. It's nice to be back.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby Rod » July 12th, 2018, 2:30 pm

Bloodbuzz Corio wrote:@rod - impressive as always! What spm do you do your shorter pieces (like a 2k) at?


Thanks BC, my last 2k was in February and averaged 38 spm which is normal for me. I would do a speed session such as 8 x 500 3':30r in an average of around 39/40 or so with maybe the last rep as high as 41.

I usually do 2 hard sessions per 7 to 10 days with the rest of it quite long and slow at around 65% of max heart rate and at 20 spm.

It seems to be working for me at the moment and I have tried to rate a little lower with more power in the stroke with the fast stuff but it feels uncomfortable and unnatural so just doesn't seem to work for me........I guess I'm just odd! :? (Plenty of people have agreed with that assessment over the years!) :lol:
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby mdpfirrman » July 12th, 2018, 2:35 pm

Another 10K for me today @ 2:12.4 I think. Fourth 10K in around a week or so straight through. Getting back to used to them now. Been finishing off with a cool down on the Air Dyne Pro to make a full hour of cardio on my SS days.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby DavidA » July 12th, 2018, 2:54 pm

Rod wrote:60 minutes

Metres..................15701
Pace....................1:54.6
SPM.....................33
I was an annoying 4 metres short of top place in the 60-69 Lwt world rankings...oh well....should have checked first! :lol:


Frustrating, although, obviously, an awesome row.
I know you have much better experience at this than me, but if I looked at the ranking ahead of time, and went to break it, I would always go out to fast, and not even come close :)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby Gammmmo » July 13th, 2018, 6:43 am

mdpfirrman wrote:I broke down a bought a compression sleeve for my right elbow. When it's getting a bit sore, that helps a ton!Today was 4 X 1500m/

Interesting. Thanks Mike. Maybe I'll give that a go. When I did tri/running occasionally people would use compression sleeves and was never convinced so maybe there is a legit use! (I'm a believer in compression socks/quad guards - used to wear them alot in my biking days going to/from events in the car and for recovery - seemed to help.)
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby mitchel674 » July 13th, 2018, 8:14 am

3 x 20 min, r1, 2:18 (marathon pace), 2:15 (half marathon pace), then 2:10 (10k pace). I enjoy this kind of row. The Eddie Fletcher plan forces you to watch HR as your target pace which keeps my mind occupied.

I'm still amazed I can row for this length of time on an almost daily basis. I was so concerned about completing a half marathon just one month ago.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby Rod » July 13th, 2018, 11:10 am

DavidA wrote:
Rod wrote:60 minutes

Metres..................15701
Pace....................1:54.6
SPM.....................33
I was an annoying 4 metres short of top place in the 60-69 Lwt world rankings...oh well....should have checked first! :lol:


Frustrating, although, obviously, an awesome row.
I know you have much better experience at this than me, but if I looked at the ranking ahead of time, and went to break it, I would always go out to fast, and not even come close :)

David


Thanks David, it wasn't a full pace effort so should go a lot further on the the next one which will be in about 2 weeks time. Mind you....I expect the bloke who's top will do a better one too! :?
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby lancecampeau » July 13th, 2018, 5:09 pm

I haven't been rowing much in July (doing more outside activities )... but I finally decided to give a solid try at a low rate piece... my result..

5000m / 19:55.4 / 1:59.5 / R19 / SPI 10.8 / DF 115 / 205w

Low rate rowing is hard!!! I was breathing pretty normal for the first 2500m but started double breathing between strokes for the last 2500m. Even at 115 DF, the handle began to feel pretty heavy by the end...

Now I am kinda wondering what my 30r20 might look like...
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7,731m/30:00.0 | 10K/38:55.5 | 14,807m/60min | HM/1:25:29.6 | FM/3:02:37.9 | 50K 3:48:04.7 | FM+HM/5:11:43.1
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby mitchel674 » July 13th, 2018, 8:17 pm

1 hour at 2:17 r22. Just over 13km. Nice, easy row to end the "week".
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby Dangerscouse » July 14th, 2018, 2:02 am

lancecampeau wrote:I haven't been rowing much in July (doing more outside activities )... but I finally decided to give a solid try at a low rate piece... my result..

5000m / 19:55.4 / 1:59.5 / R19 / SPI 10.8 / DF 115 / 205w

Low rate rowing is hard!!! I was breathing pretty normal for the first 2500m but started double breathing between strokes for the last 2500m. Even at 115 DF, the handle began to feel pretty heavy by the end...

Now I am kinda wondering what my 30r20 might look like...


It is hard, but it does get easier with time. I found my breathing was an issue to start with too. It's a different technique to faster stroke and it's just as tough for rowers who are only used to low strokes and them having to increase their strokes.
44 Years Old; 6' 4"; 95kg; Liverpool, England 2k= 6:38; 5k= 17:29; 6k= 21:54; 10k= 36:21 30mins= 8,242m 60mins= 16,317m HM= 1:18:40; FM= 2:49:39; 50k= 3:28:18; 75k=5:29:15; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Postby Gammmmo » July 14th, 2018, 3:34 am

Heading for 70K on the erg for this week (~10K/day) just steady so 1:59-2:03. This isn't really training it's just about keeping things ticking over while my elbows/back repair. HIIT/1K training resumes soon... :)
Struggling to get beyond 73kg, would like to be 75-76kg but ~10% bodyfat....some way from that at the moment. Diet not as strict of late - 4 pack has become 2 pack at best. :lol:
I've got a pretty good idea now of how I can get to where I want to be on all fronts. The project continues...
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