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6 Days A Week

Postby jbhop5857 » October 13th, 2017, 10:28 am

Good Day. I have rowed on and off for a number of years. I am committed to the Pete Plan at this time, but am wondering if 6 days a week is too much. I know most cardio can be done 6 days a week so long as you monitor pain and time, but rowing has a strength component to the whole body and I want to make sure I am not overdoing it. Yes, I am very sore when I finish sessions and yes, I am sore the next day, but I don't feel injured, just really tired. Would your initial thought be just work through it, or back off to 5 days. I have been doing 5 days for about 2 months. Thanks all. Just chasing that 7 min 2k.
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2k: 7:42 - 2017
5K: 19:12.8 - 2015
6K: 23:28 - 2015
10K: 39:55 - 2015
HM: 1:29:24 - 2017
30 Min: 7740 - 2015
60 Min: 15033 - 2015
FM: 3:10:22 - 2017
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby Cyclist2 » October 13th, 2017, 12:08 pm

The Pete Plan talks about pacing and progress - it's a slow steady buildup over time. I think you are probably pushing too hard on each session. I would suggest you back off a little on each session, so that you have enough left for the next day. Six days is not too much, but if you feel like you need a day recovery in between, take it. You'll be stronger on the following day.
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby Gammmmo » October 13th, 2017, 12:29 pm

jbhop5857 wrote:Good Day. I have rowed on and off for a number of years. I am committed to the Pete Plan at this time, but am wondering if 6 days a week is too much. I know most cardio can be done 6 days a week so long as you monitor pain and time, but rowing has a strength component to the whole body and I want to make sure I am not overdoing it. Yes, I am very sore when I finish sessions and yes, I am sore the next day, but I don't feel injured, just really tired. Would your initial thought be just work through it, or back off to 5 days. I have been doing 5 days for about 2 months. Thanks all. Just chasing that 7 min 2k.

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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby G-dub » October 13th, 2017, 12:47 pm

The Pete plan is very tough. Not knowing your age or other stats, it is super tough for us older weekend warriors. Some ideas that have been tried include: making your training week 8 or 9 days instead of 7 to add in an extra rest or easy day; doing it on 4 week cycles, where the 4th week is more of a recovery week with less intensity (there are some variations on the key sessions that can be added in); being a bit "careful" about pacing so that you squeeze out gains in tidy chunks and not with efforts that completely bury you. And finally, take a rest day when you think you need it. Not after it's too late.
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby jbhop5857 » October 13th, 2017, 2:06 pm

Thank you all very much. It is clear to me that 6 days is not too much, but it is at the intensity I am aiming for on the Pete Plan. However, as has happened in the past, if I try to keep this up, I will just stop (read: fail). So, I am going to go for 3 months alternating between 5 and 6 days a week and see how that works. Worst case, I guess, is I stay at 5.
For info
Age:38
Weight: working on it, 255
2k PB: 7:42, but honestly, I think I can beat that right now.
60M PB: 59:42

Thanks, keep responses coming....
PB Age: 38 - HWT - VERY (250)
2k: 7:42 - 2017
5K: 19:12.8 - 2015
6K: 23:28 - 2015
10K: 39:55 - 2015
HM: 1:29:24 - 2017
30 Min: 7740 - 2015
60 Min: 15033 - 2015
FM: 3:10:22 - 2017
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby lwtguy » October 13th, 2017, 2:37 pm

I train a lot. Six days a week, often twice a day with weight sessions too. But I'm young, and have been doing this for 10 years. It took a lot of time to build into it.

I like to structure my training schedules in a general sense like this:

Monday: Low intensity, high volume (I almost always do a morning and an afternoon workout)
Tuesday: Speed Work (2K pace during winter/spring/summer, 5K pace in the fall)
Wednesday: Long intervals (AT or mid-range intervals). Sometimes I do a second easy session these days.
Thursday: Whatever I feel like doing (usually sprints or cross training)
Friday: Same as Monday
Saturday/ Sunday: Low intensity, usually short distance around 8-10K.

I like to have the hard stuff done by Wednesday so that the rest of the week I can look forward to just relaxing. But it's all about feeling out how your body is responding to the training.
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby nick rockliff » October 13th, 2017, 4:07 pm

jbhop5857 wrote:Thank you all very much. It is clear to me that 6 days is not too much, but it is at the intensity I am aiming for on the Pete Plan. However, as has happened in the past, if I try to keep this up, I will just stop (read: fail). So, I am going to go for 3 months alternating between 5 and 6 days a week and see how that works. Worst case, I guess, is I stay at 5.
For info
Age:38
Weight: working on it, 255
2k PB: 7:42, but honestly, I think I can beat that right now.
60M PB: 59:42

Thanks, keep responses coming....


If you want to train six days a week but find it's a bit tough, just slow it down a tad. Six days shouldn't be a problem.
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50-59 PBs - 2k 6.24.3 - 5k 16.55.4 - 6k 20.34.2 - 10k 35.19.0 - 30min 8633 - 60min 16685 - HM 76.48.7
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby jackarabit » October 14th, 2017, 11:34 am

jbhop5857 wrote:Thank you all very much. It is clear to me that 6 days is not too much, but it is at the intensity I am aiming for on the Pete Plan. However, as has happened in the past, if I try to keep this up, I will just stop (read: fail). So, I am going to go for 3 months alternating between 5 and 6 days a week and see how that works. Worst case, I guess, is I stay at 5.
For info
Age:38
Weight: working on it, 255
2k PB: 7:42, but honestly, I think I can beat that right now.
60M PB: 59:42

Thanks, keep responses coming....


Rein in your desire for rapid pace improvement and stay in the game for a few weeks longer. Possibly alternation of hard week/easy week (if only in terms of volume or days rowed) may help with recovery. What session would you choose to omit? Would it be one of the 8k steadies?

Curious about your "60M" personal best? M is an alternative symbol for thousand but can't possibly be 60k! 60' in 59:42 is also nonsense. What is your highest, continuous 1 hr. meter total to date?
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby Dangerscouse » October 14th, 2017, 11:59 am

Personally I think six days a week, if you're trying each time to improve might be too much.

Make sure you vary the intensity and learn to be mindful of how you are feeling, pushing on with a strict programme could set you back a lot more than 1 or 2 rest days will. It comes with time but you can learn when you're being lazy and when you need a rest, but I train at 6am (get up at 4:45) so it might be different for you.
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby jbhop5857 » October 15th, 2017, 6:53 pm

Yep, my desire to post my first question led me to using some wrong abbreviations etc.
My 60 minute row distance is 15033. I'm honestly not sure where I got the 59:42 from. Well, maybe that helps.
I did not understand that it was 8k steadies for the distance rows. I have been following an escalating meters plan. For instance, today was 16k, Wed and Sat were about 11k and I did 10k for my speed distance ranking workout.

Rein in your desire for rapid pace improvement and stay in the game for a few weeks longer. Possibly alternation of hard week/easy week (if only in terms of volume or days rowed) may help with recovery. What session would you choose to omit? Would it be one of the 8k steadies?

Curious about your "60M" personal best? M is an alternative symbol for thousand but can't possibly be 60k! 60' in 59:42 is also nonsense. What is your highest, continuous 1 hr. meter total to date?[/quote]
PB Age: 38 - HWT - VERY (250)
2k: 7:42 - 2017
5K: 19:12.8 - 2015
6K: 23:28 - 2015
10K: 39:55 - 2015
HM: 1:29:24 - 2017
30 Min: 7740 - 2015
60 Min: 15033 - 2015
FM: 3:10:22 - 2017
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby jbhop5857 » October 15th, 2017, 7:12 pm

Yep, my desire to post my first question led me to using some wrong abbreviations etc.
My 60 minute row distance is 15033. I'm honestly not sure where I got the 59:42 from. Well, maybe that helps.
I did not understand that it was 8k steadies for the distance rows. I have been following an escalating meters plan. For instance, today was 16k, Wed and Sat were about 11k and I did 10k for my speed distance ranking workout.
PB Age: 38 - HWT - VERY (250)
2k: 7:42 - 2017
5K: 19:12.8 - 2015
6K: 23:28 - 2015
10K: 39:55 - 2015
HM: 1:29:24 - 2017
30 Min: 7740 - 2015
60 Min: 15033 - 2015
FM: 3:10:22 - 2017
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby jackarabit » October 15th, 2017, 7:50 pm

I remember the SS days prescribed at 8k or greater. Whatever the case, there is leeway to back off on volume there and on hard distance day. The "ranking" habit on hard distance day is tempting. Had that habit myself. If it happens it happens but best not force it.

A plan imposes formal discipline but any plan can be misinterpreted in spirit as well as letter. Omitting one steady distance row per wk is a reasonable modification as is "stretching" the week to 8 days. If one then uses the extra recovery to push for even faster gains on the three core workouts, one could find five workouts per week looking attractive. That's the path of rationalization that precedes physical and mental burnout. The cold hand comes on fast and there won't be a question of another cycle or an additional week or even finishing the current week. Don't go down that path!
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Re: 6 Days A Week

Postby Dangerscouse » October 16th, 2017, 10:35 am

Great post Jackarabit and so very true
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