Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

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Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby mmayzak » April 15th, 2018, 11:30 am

Well, I have rowed 3 marathons now... I think I am going to go for the 100K pin next (maybe this next weekend)?

Being so few have rowed this distance and lived to tell the tale, I am going to guess I just need to eat well, rest well, bring something to drink and something easy to eat calories... and just row for it.

Any other tips?

I did notice there isn't a 50-59HWT world record for the 1M meters? lol

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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby Dangerscouse » April 16th, 2018, 2:43 am

Mike, I think you should build up to it. Jumping from 42k to 100k is a world of difference and I took my time increasing the distance. I would recommend doing at least up to 75km to get prepared for it, as it definitely helps when things get tough, and they will get undoubtedly get tough. I found there was quite a difference between 75km and 85km

Getting your mental training sorted is probably the most important thing, closely followed by nutrition and drinks. A cut up yoga mat in a pillow case is best for the seat, but only use it after a couple of hours if you can wait that long. You will need a change of clothes too if you sweat like I do.

I assume you have got preferred drinks and food sorted out as you have done three FMs now. If you are doing it in a gym be careful of exercise induced asthma if the air con is on. It really affected me on an 85km row and I felt like I couldn't breath properly for 30 mins afterwards.

Pacing is probably best at your FM pace + 20 secs or maybe +25.

Ian Holmes is attempting one million metres, along with a 24hr row at some point this year and he's in the 50-59 category, so there will be one soonish. I think he is HWT but he might be LWT.
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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby Neorticros » April 16th, 2018, 5:01 am

Heh, what Stu is trying to tell you in a polite way is that you are going nuts :P

According to your PB in a FM you'd have to row for 9 hours aprox. to get those 100 km done. Going from beeing able to row for 3:30 to 9 hours looks out of reach.
But I don't know, you know yourself better than us.

Myself I can row at the same pace as you do in a FM (done 5 of them this year). I can tell you that going from 42 km to 50km alone is challenging. Going from 42 to 100 is crazy. For me the hardest part is when you start rowing at +2:30/500. At some point that happens to me. It's because I'm mentally tired and phisically tired. When you row that slow it is really hard to keep on rowing. I don't see myself rowing at that pace for long.

I have in mind a challenge too, not as great as yours but we'll see.
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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby hjs » April 16th, 2018, 5:08 am

Neorticros wrote:Heh, what Stu is trying to tell you in a polite way is that you are going nuts :P

According to your PB in a FM you'd have to row for 9 hours aprox. to get those 100 km done. Going from beeing able to row for 3:30 to 9 hours looks out of reach.
But I don't know, you know yourself better than us.

Myself I can row at the same pace as you do in a FM (done 5 of them this year). I can tell you that going from 42 km to 50km alone is challenging. Going from 42 to 100 is crazy. For me the hardest part is when you start rowing at +2:30/500. At some point that happens to me. It's because I'm mentally tired and phisically tired. When you row that slow it is really hard to keep on rowing. I don't see myself rowing at that pace for long.

I have in mind a challenge too, not as great as yours but we'll see.


Its just like walking or cycling, you have to be able to sit so long, thats 90%, intensity is very low. You need distraction, its super boring, staring at the same thing for so long.
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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby Dangerscouse » April 16th, 2018, 6:01 am

@ Neorticros, hahahaha

For some reason boredom didn't bother me it was more about the ability to keep going and the physical consequences e.g. sore butt, knees and tight inner back muscles. Knowing I had a definite date to work towards possibly helped focus my mind more as failure wasn't an option.

I think that you get into a groove and just zone out from it but I also think it was essential that I got very familiar with such long distances.

My 100km attempt was a terrible day for me and I knew from waking up it would be a horrible ordeal but I had no option.

A hard sports massage before and after is also recommended.

I also agree with Henry that if you lower the intensity enough it will be possible but if you do that then it obviously increases the time to complete it. My 12hr session was a lot easier than my training as I slowed down
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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby edinborogh » April 16th, 2018, 11:31 pm

i would love to read how you prepare yourself for this ultra distance.
last year i did my first ever FM and it took me months to build up to it.

im also interested to know how did you manage your recovery after long distances. funny enough and i cant explain why, after my last year long distances, a bit of a sleep was more then enough and the following day i was back to normal. i wonder if its the same for other people or are there some things its better to do in terms of recovery.
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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby hjs » April 17th, 2018, 4:52 am

edinborogh wrote:i would love to read how you prepare yourself for this ultra distance.
last year i did my first ever FM and it took me months to build up to it.

im also interested to know how did you manage your recovery after long distances. funny enough and i cant explain why, after my last year long distances, a bit of a sleep was more then enough and the following day i was back to normal. i wonder if its the same for other people or are there some things its better to do in terms of recovery.


Its all about intensity. Some people row hours daily and are fine. Look at walking multi day events. Those people are often far from very fit and walk 50k a day. A full days work. Blisters are the main trouble. But for the rest its ok.

Or cycling, I know a guy who sometimes does long cycling trips, he does not cycle much, but from the off cycles full days.
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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby bisqeet » April 17th, 2018, 6:01 am

mostly conditioning.
hardest part is boredom and numb ass - at least at the intensity I go.

I guess if you are after a sub 2:00 split, then other factors come into play too.
Elena Buryak was targeting an insane 100k (sub 6:30 is i remember correctly), which for a HW Female (albeit olyimpian) is quite an amazing task to undertake.
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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby mmayzak » April 17th, 2018, 9:46 pm

I think I can make the distance, I felt pretty ok after the last marathon a few weeks ago... just need to line my some calories and hydration.

I want to be in the low 8 hour range, we'll see if this is the weekend for this. I may wait another month.

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Re: Well i've rowed my 3rd marathon... next up 100K!

Postby lancecampeau » April 17th, 2018, 11:05 pm

This season I've done...

- 11 HM's
- 7 pieces between 25K and 35k
- 4 FM's
- 3 50k's
- 1 FM+HM (63k)


Since day 1, I've viewed the 100k as a "3 year plan". I'm now heading into year 2 and my goal this season is to hit the 75K milestone twice. Once that is done, attempting the double marathon will be the next target. After those goals have been reached, I'll be ready to make a quality attempt at the 100K.
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7,731m/30:00.0 | 10K/38:55.5 | 14,807m/60min | HM/1:25:29.6 | FM/3:02:37.9 | 50K 3:48:04.7 | FM+HM/5:11:43.1
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