Carl Watts wrote:Not sure why anyone bothers with a "Diet".
Everyone knows what they should be eating, but the knowing and the doing are two different things so I guess if you have to call something a "Diet" to get the motivation to follow it, then it suits some people.
Whatever works for you I guess, without RowPro I would be stuffed in terms of motivation to sit on a seat and yank a chain for up to an hour a day. The side benefit of all the exercise is being able to stuff Indian curries, cream buns and wine and beer in your face.
Balkan boy wrote:I've spent about eight months doing ketogenic diet. Goal was ~20g of carbohydrates, but I think I stayed at ~50g for later months.
Most of that time was specific preparation for 2k erg time trial. Mostly erging with one or two strength sessions per cycle.
- I used to do one ANP session (10x100m; max drag) per week and saw steady improvements in Peak Power on the order of 20-50W per week. It didn't hurt.
- I saw good adaptations in aerobic system. I could ride my bike (UT2-1, high impact) for hours without tiring. I've lost that since.
- In the first few months the middle distance workouts (L2; 4x2k etc.) were hell. I'd deplete the glycogen in the first rep and suffer to the end. Towards the end of the diet I didn't notice a detriment, but it was always hard.
I've changed my position on the keto diet since. I would recommend it only to someone who has basic knowledge of physiology, knows how to track macronutrients and aims at rapid fat loss. I don't think it's conducive for rowing as a long-term diet, unless you are one of the super-responders and do ultra-endurance.
Shawn Baker wrote:Greg, as someone with experience with this stuff, I'll say that given time the body has the capacity to adapt and provide the requisite ATP needed for any activity regardless of macronutrients dietary composition- I very regularly go weeks and months without any significant carbohydrate and would argue that I can perform at a relatively high level. Regardless, I find the major benefit to restricting carbohydrates (especially processed and sugary ones) to be the relative reduction in inflammation and a greater capacity for recovery- the sports nutritionists continually fail to look past the metabolic partitioning/fuel preferences aspect of this- also in my view long term is not limited to just greater than 3-4 weeks- looking at 6 months to 1 year is in my view more relevant (as suggested by Volek's FASTER study). Additionally, much of the sports nutrition literature has been funded through institutions like the Gatorade sports science institute, with the obvious and very much real conflicts of interests. Certainly it is also starting to be a bit more mainstream to spend long phases of training in a relatively low carb state and then taper them up a bit for competition- certainly as a masters athletes I find low carb likely to be a very effective strategy to preserve and prolong my competitive capacity.
What's the reason that you're looking into a ketogenic diet?
I think you'll find that the research fairly conclusively shows that you're better off sticking with a "normal" diet (whatever that means) with plenty of carbohydrate intake, especially if you're an athlete who trains regularly. This is not to say ketogenic diets don't "work," but rather that I'm not sure the cons outweigh the benefits.
As you yourself pointed out, if you judge it by the studies that have been done, the evidence points in one direction, while you'll get a totally different answer when posting the question to the public where you're going to get mostly responses from people who are proponents of the diet and you're going to run into a self-selection and anecdotal evidence issue.
Anyway, just curious why you're considering this type of diet when you're already a very successful athlete as it is.
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