New kid on the block - BikeErg

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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby Anth_F » August 10th, 2017, 6:47 pm

Thats what i reckon.. hence my earlier "hmmm" response.

C breeze doesn't cover the whole portion of the flywheel cage either so sweat would still get in anyway.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby Drivetofast » August 10th, 2017, 7:17 pm

kini62 wrote:
Drivetofast wrote:
Anth_F wrote:Yeah dripping sweat would cause havoc over time on there. A good idea would have been to place the flywheel in front of the handle bars.

Like that issue with the erg, where they never water tight sealed the plastic capping at the end of the monorail... sweat can run down the rail into there and rot the heck out of it.

This said, i do like this BikeErg. Maybe later i might get myself one, as i always struggle getting my backside outdoors often enough on the MB.


Simple fix Put a C breeze on fan


That will only keep the sweat off the cage. It will still run down the side where it mounts to the frame.


I'm suppose to take delivery of my bike erg this Month. When I get it I will give a update. Until then I don't understand how you can come to a conclusion without trying or seeing it first.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby kini62 » August 10th, 2017, 7:36 pm

Drivetofast wrote:
kini62 wrote:
That will only keep the sweat off the cage. It will still run down the side where it mounts to the frame.


I'm suppose to take delivery of my bike erg this Month. When I get it I will give a update. Until then I don't understand how you can come to a conclusion without trying or seeing it first.


I come to that conclusion by looking at the photos and video. The flywheel is pretty much right under the left handlebar. I sweat buckets. When I was riding on my road bike on a trainer I had to wrap the front end in plastic wrap. Even then I rotted out a setup of clip on bars, the bottle cage screws are salted in, the front hub is a salty corroded mess and even the bottom bracket is corroded from sweat. It was an old road bike that I wasn't using anymore so not a big deal, but I can't ever see this flywheel position working out for someone that sweats a lot and uses it for extended periods of time.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby CaseyClarke » August 11th, 2017, 4:25 pm

I'm getting one as soon as they're available in the UK.

Pace is displayed in /1000m instead of /500m on the erg and ski.

Not sure if it also has mph or kph. I think in watts when I'm on a static bike, so would most likely do sessions with the display on that anyway.

If it's calibrated with similar numbers to the Wattbike then it would need it's own separate CTC. Close to 1 minute for 1km, under 13 minutes for 10km, and a couple of hours at 1:29/1000m pace are all doable for me on a good day on the Wattbike.

It'll also be part of the C2 logbook and have it's own rankings list.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby CaseyClarke » August 11th, 2017, 4:39 pm

hjs wrote:Ski is not that much slower, most people don,t train much on them.


It's in the ball park of between 6 and 10.0/500m pace slower than the rower at world record level.

1:10.5 v 1:17.7 (500m)
1:24.1 v 1:33.6 (2000m)
1:33.2 v 1:40.4 (10000m)

But yeah, there aren't that many great athletes trying to be fast on the skier so not many fast times around. The current ski records are set by some pretty decent athletes, so they probably won't move too much. Except the 2km. It's slightly soft at only 6:14.5. A big, strong athlete like Justin Farina will beat this in the coming months.

I've reached my optimum on both in the past and am near enough 6/500m slower on the skier than the erg across all distances.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby hjs » August 11th, 2017, 5:41 pm

CaseyClarke wrote:
hjs wrote:Ski is not that much slower, most people don,t train much on them.


It's in the ball park of between 6 and 10.0/500m pace slower than the rower at world record level.

1:10.5 v 1:17.7 (500m)
1:24.1 v 1:33.6 (2000m)
1:33.2 v 1:40.4 (10000m)

But yeah, there aren't that many great athletes trying to be fast on the skier so not many fast times around. The current ski records are set by some pretty decent athletes, so they probably won't move too much. Except the 2km. It's slightly soft at only 6:14.5. A big, strong athlete like Justin Farina will beat this in the coming months.

I've reached my optimum on both in the past and am near enough 6/500m slower on the skier than the erg across all distances.


Casey looking at the current wr holders, although fine athlete but not yet of olympic rowing level. Justin is now around 6.00 and 6.15. A 5.40 guy should be Able to crack sub6 on the skierg.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby BigCon » August 12th, 2017, 10:00 am

I presume Concept2 will post the shirt, medium and long workouts of the day for the BikeErg as well. Would anyone be able to write one up here just for a taste?
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby Sweede » August 12th, 2017, 4:56 pm

I am really looking forward to see and try this BikeErg when it arrives in Europe (Denmark)

It seem that the PM5 has been slightly changed to the new member af the family.

I am confident that when Concept2 does something new it is a solid product, the sweat thing will be an issue for some people i think

but all in all I really look forward to this

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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby remisture » August 13th, 2017, 5:11 am

Have you seen any dates for the Europe launch (Norway)?
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby Livio Livius » August 13th, 2017, 6:52 am

remisture wrote:Have you seen any dates for the Europe launch (Norway)?


Not more info than early 2018 for Europe.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby dr3do » August 15th, 2017, 12:00 pm

hjs wrote:Ski is not that much slower, most people don,t train much on them.

I do (on a regular base) Bike, SkiErg and RowErg. My FTP (hour of power) on the Bike (100%) is the highest, followed by the RowErg (~80%) and then comes the SkiErg (~70%).
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby hjs » August 17th, 2017, 8:38 am

Rankings are on for the bike..... Not much to see, but a lot faster thats for sure.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby Steve W » August 19th, 2017, 10:54 pm

Bike arrived early this evening. Will assemble tomorrow.
61yo, 61kg, Erg 500m, 1:58.6; 1k; 2k 8:04; 5k 20:46; 30min 7096m; 10k 43:49; 1 hour 13578m; half marathon, 1:37:49; marathon, 3:36:47
Skierg 2K 9:10; 5k 24:30; 30 min 6010m; 10k 49:56.5; 1hr 11776m; half marathon, 1:52:43.2; skierg marathon, 4:04:14.
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby CaseyClarke » August 21st, 2017, 12:35 pm

hjs wrote:Rankings are on for the bike..... Not much to see, but a lot faster thats for sure.


They sure are a lot faster but not as fast as I was hoping for!

We have several scores in the 500m rankings, ranging from 40 secs to 45, and a fastest 1km so far or 1:35.

Not sure if you've ever used a Wattbike (?) but sub 28 secs for 500m, sub 1:00 for 1km, and over 44km an hour would all be considered 'good' scores on this. I'm not sure how closely the wattage read-outs will be to the WB ones, but the paces attached to the wattages are somewhat slower.

The 44.9 500m I saw was 487 watts. 487 watts on a Wattbike would be closer 35 seconds. I think 37 - 38 seconds will turn out to be a very good score!

I read on Insta that because the paces are in /1000m (instead of /500) they want to keep some familiarity with the 1:20s - 1:30s - 1:40s - 1:50s typical screen shot that you'd see, so they've made the paces for similar to double for the same wattage. i.e 250 watts is 1:51/1000m on the BikeErg, on the normal erg those 250 watts are around 1:51 pace, albeit /500m pace.

I can't see myself using the /1000m pace on this machine anyway. Will probably get a 60 minute FTP watts number and do all workouts based on watts with the watts numbers showing!
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Re: New kid on the block - BikeErg

Postby hjs » August 21st, 2017, 1:26 pm

CaseyClarke wrote:
hjs wrote:Rankings are on for the bike..... Not much to see, but a lot faster thats for sure.


They sure are a lot faster but not as fast as I was hoping for!

We have several scores in the 500m rankings, ranging from 40 secs to 45, and a fastest 1km so far or 1:35.

Not sure if you've ever used a Wattbike (?) but sub 28 secs for 500m, sub 1:00 for 1km, and over 44km an hour would all be considered 'good' scores on this. I'm not sure how closely the wattage read-outs will be to the WB ones, but the paces attached to the wattages are somewhat slower.

The 44.9 500m I saw was 487 watts. 487 watts on a Wattbike would be closer 35 seconds. I think 37 - 38 seconds will turn out to be a very good score!

I read on Insta that because the paces are in /1000m (instead of /500) they want to keep some familiarity with the 1:20s - 1:30s - 1:40s - 1:50s typical screen shot that you'd see, so they've made the paces for similar to double for the same wattage. i.e 250 watts is 1:51/1000m on the BikeErg, on the normal erg those 250 watts are around 1:51 pace, albeit /500m pace.

I can't see myself using the /1000m pace on this machine anyway. Will probably get a 60 minute FTP watts number and do all workouts based on watts with the watts numbers showing!


Nope never seen a wattbike even. Seldom cycle indoors, just daily stuff on a city bike.

Will take a while before some really guys start putting in times to see what its really worth. But you already have an idea.
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