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Chad Williams
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Post by Chad Williams » April 13th, 2006, 8:44 am

Chad Williams wrote:How do you know that the original text of this topic (my 1st post) was not stolen from me in the first place?.
Where is a lawyer in a cheap suit when you need one?

You don’t seem to have a problem with Individuals/Teams posting "false" times, but you have a problem with people posting without quotes.

I am off to the rankings to post a 32.44.6 10K for the CTC, I hope you find that expectable? Or should I put that in “quotes” for you?

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Post by whp4 » April 13th, 2006, 11:04 am

hjs wrote:
Alissa wrote:
chgoss wrote:Chad Williams cheated, that's priceless!!

The only answer is to have C2 have a separate ranking including only race results. When that happens, the credibility of the training times gets vastly diminished, thus discouraging "cheating" (if, in fact, anyone has actually cheated)
It will also serve to encourage more races to be organized..
Emphasis added.

The rankings are already set up this way. When you run a search, under "Source" in the right hand column, specify that you want to see only "Race results", and you'll have exactly what you're looking for. (The other options from the drop down menu are "individually entered results", "RowPro Direct Entry" and the default, "ALL.")

Remember that whatever the source you choose to look at, the result is only going to be from a stated "season".

To see "records" look under World Records, which has its own standards for inclusion and will allow you to looks at records from a particular season or from all seasons listed.

Alissa
although true is this not very sue full ate the moment. Manny events are not included. So this list is not complete. And I would also not call it an separate list. It is just one list everything mixt up. Not clear at all.

A few weeks ago there was official marathon over here in Holland. You will not find the results in the rankings :( . A pitty I think
A separate list isn't going to change the speed at which C2 USA enters race entries in "the list". Nor will it cause there to be more races at distances other than 2k. It also won't do anything about race organizers who don't go through the necessary steps to provide the data for C2 USA.

A new governing body won't do anything about these problems either, unless it has funding. Remember, C2 does this to drum up interest in rowing, which leads to more sales. How many hard-core rowers are going to be buying more ergs if the race results are posted faster? Hard to imagine that it will influence sales to fitness clubs or recreational types.

Bill

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Race data, display, etc.

Post by Alissa » April 13th, 2006, 11:23 am

We seem to have developed a second topic in this thread, so I'm cross posting my posts on race displays and the related posts from others under the Competition Forum so that we can continue the discussion--and perhaps include others who are tired of topics titled "cheat", etc.

It will be up in a few minutes.

Alissa

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Post by RowtheRockies » April 13th, 2006, 11:31 am

chgoss wrote:Chad Williams cheated, that's priceless!!

The only answer is to have C2 have a separate ranking including only race results. When that happens, the credibility of the training times gets vastly diminished, thus discouraging "cheating" (if, in fact, anyone has actually cheated)
It will also serve to encourage more races to be organized..
I agree with this. A seperate Race Only Ranking would be good.

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Post by johnlvs2run » April 13th, 2006, 11:58 am

I'd like to see a separate race ranking, for those of us who live within 120 miles of me and are 165 pounds or less. :lol:

This is the only fair way to do it, since those who live farther away than this don't count, and shouldn't count in the "real" rankings.

By the way I live in California not Massachusetts. This is why times in Santa Maria should count and not times in Boston. You see. :? This makes sense doesn't it... eh? :D

Of course if you can't make it to Santa Maria for a race than that's your problem. :P This way I can be first in the rankings and have all the world records and you can't hahaha! :lol:
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2

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Post by afolpe » April 13th, 2006, 12:46 pm

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I am off to the rankings to post a 32.44.6 10K for the CTC, I hope you find that expectable? Or should I put that in “quotes” for you?[/quote]


"Expectable"? Should that be "acceptable" Or perhaps "expectorable", as in ejecting something unpleasant from your nose, (like this thread?)

Andrew

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