Too many meters

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Too many meters

Post by kbaktidy95@gmail.com » June 29th, 2011, 5:44 pm

My summer rowing team has us doing 30000 meters a day 5 times a week, most of this is on water at full pressure. With this amount of rowing can I still weight lift, and erg at home without having to worry about over training.

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Re: Too many meters

Post by Citroen » June 29th, 2011, 5:47 pm

Ask your coach.

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Re: Too many meters

Post by JimmyL » June 29th, 2011, 6:45 pm

Well what do you think? Like do you think you can do more than what you're currently doing?

You sure you're doing 30k? that's a lot of rowing to do in 1 day..... I only do 15k in a quad during training and I'm wrecked after it. 12k when I'm sculling and I'm tired for the rest of the day.

If your honestly doing 30k a day, then I'd call that overtraining....
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Re: Too many meters

Post by pmacaula » June 29th, 2011, 7:13 pm

Everyone's limit is different, but you might want to ask your coach about what their expectation is around rest & recovery before adding more work to the program. A decent coach with a well thought-out program should be setting expectation about ALL of your training, not just your OTW workouts.

One quantitative way to test yourself for overtraining (other than the normal qualitative self assessment of how you feel) is to take your resting heart rate each morning BEFORE you get up. If you can, do it for a full 60 seconds.
If the trend over a few weeks is that your resting heart rate is going up (rather than up/down in some kind of cycle related to workout intensity), you are likely overtraining.

A coach at our club has her athletes do HR 3 days/wk (Tue/Wed/Thu) and on the 3rd day, measure it BOTH before and IMMEDIATELY upon getting up (just stand by the bed). The athletes then take the 3 day average of the first two days and the HIGHER of the Thursday measurement.

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Re: Too many meters

Post by Byron Drachman » June 29th, 2011, 7:51 pm

Here is a quote from an article that gives some details to what Patrick referred to.

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http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0410.htm
Also, remember that another popular heart-rate test - checking one's pulse rate upon awakening in the morning - has been shown to be an unreliable indicator of overtraining, and it's not clear yet that Rusko's orthostatic methods will be totally dependable. As a result, athletes should be very careful with their training; it's always better to train too little and save one's maximal efforts for competitions, rather than overtrain.

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Re: Too many meters

Post by Tinus » July 2nd, 2011, 6:13 am

kbaktidy95@gmail.com wrote:My summer rowing team has us doing 30000 meters a day 5 times a week, most of this is on water at full pressure. With this amount of rowing can I still weight lift, and erg at home without having to worry about over training.
It may be well assumed that your coaches have designed a rowing program which is considered complete by them. This is because 30k a day is not little (although it depends on intensity as well). Your additional work is most probably detrimental or at least less than optimal. You should consult your coaches. But, keep in mind even if they allow you to row less and do your own stuff it doesn't sound like a good thing. Doing two programs at once is often not a good idea. E.g. Why do the rowing on the erg at home as well, do you want to train and grow into a different direction than your team is going?

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