Fixed C2 vs C2 on rails

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rhyszoe
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Fixed C2 vs C2 on rails

Post by rhyszoe » January 6th, 2012, 7:59 pm

After a break of around 6 months or so due to travel and other commitments I am back on the C2 again, but at a different place where the ergs all run on rails. At my old gym the only machines available were the fixed variety. The machine on rails certainly has a different feel to it and I am wondering whether I need to vary my technique in order to maximise my performance. After only 2 weeks training I am only 5% short of my previous best over 30 minutes and the temperature has been up over 30C (86F), so I am not unhappy with how I am going to date.
Is it reasonable to expect that you would perform better on a rails machine or does it work the other way round? Or is there no difference at all?
Should I be concentrating on particular aspects of my technique on the rails machine? It certainly feels more like rowing on the water, although that was a long time ago!
Any thoughts?

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Re: Fixed C2 vs C2 on rails

Post by Carl Watts » January 6th, 2012, 11:50 pm

It's better on slides and the temperature makes a huge difference, PB's are so much better in the Winter at say 17 C compared to even 26 C. Personally I find anything over 30 C very difficult conditions to row in, but then again we always have 70-80%+ humidity so you just sweat all over the place without the full cooling effect from it.
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Re: Fixed C2 vs C2 on rails / slides

Post by carlb » January 10th, 2012, 12:06 pm

rhyszoe wrote:The machine on rails certainly has a different feel to it and I am wondering whether I need to vary my technique in order to maximise my performance. After only 2 weeks training I am only 5% short of my previous best over 30 minutes
I know I am slower on slides. You might try a lower drag factor. AUS rowing (and Ivan Hooper) suggest these lower drag factors on slides. Here's the table from the Step test PDF.
Table 2: New Ergometer Drag Factor Settings (only to be used if tested on sliders)
  • Factor Category
    95 Junior Female
    95 Lightweight Female
    105 Heavyweight Female
    105 Junior Male
    105 Lightweight Male
    115 Heavyweight Male
http://www.rowingaustralia.com.au/docs/ ... rowing.pdf

Also in The Rowing Ergometer - Relevance to Training & Testing
http://www.concept2.com.au/products/Slides/default.aspx

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Re: Fixed C2 vs C2 on rails

Post by djh » January 11th, 2012, 3:23 pm

I think slides give a slight advantage, but are definitely slower at the start. So they may be a disadvantage at very short distances.
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