2000 meter time

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Boss302
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2000 meter time

Post by Boss302 » March 13th, 2019, 12:28 pm

Question people, I just switched gyms and their rowers were the older models and my times were always consistent on the 2k. I just switched to a new gym closer to my house that has the Model D which are brand new and I'm rowing the same and my time is off by a minute. I usually row around 6:53 and the quickest time I can get is a 7:53.......I don't understand it.

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Re: 2000 meter time

Post by hjs » March 13th, 2019, 2:09 pm

Boss302 wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Question people, I just switched gyms and their rowers were the older models and my times were always consistent on the 2k. I just switched to a new gym closer to my house that has the Model D which are brand new and I'm rowing the same and my time is off by a minute. I usually row around 6:53 and the quickest time I can get is a 7:53.......I don't understand it.
Almost certainly the other rowers where no C2 ones. If not, the configuration could been wrong. Sorry, but new machines simply tell you like it is.
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Re: 2000 meter time

Post by Minimoof123 » March 13th, 2019, 2:12 pm

I suspect this may be drag related, what I have learnt is that you can not alter the speed of time but you can alter the speed of your rowing, did you know the drag factor on the old machine ? Even saying that 1 minute difference seems a big difference, may be others will give a more scientific reply ? Good luck, main thing is to keep rowing.......
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Re: 2000 meter time

Post by hjs » March 13th, 2019, 3:08 pm

Minimoof123 wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 2:12 pm
I suspect this may be drag related, what I have learnt is that you can not alter the speed of time but you can alter the speed of your rowing, did you know the drag factor on the old machine ? Even saying that 1 minute difference seems a big difference, may be others will give a more scientific reply ? Good luck, main thing is to keep rowing.......
Forget this, really has very litte effect. Drag does alter pace much, older machines can be very dusty, giving a very low max drag, but this would a slower time, not faster. In watts those times differ roughly 100 watt, thats massive.

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Re: 2000 meter time

Post by KeithT » March 14th, 2019, 1:10 pm

Agree something is drastically wrong here. I had a model C for a while before buying a Model D and there was no difference between them as far as times/splits with the same effort and form. A minute is a HUGE difference. Unless the older rowers were not Concept2 I just cant understand how this could happen. If it was just one machine I could see something being wrong but not a group of them.
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Re: 2000 meter time

Post by Anth_F » March 14th, 2019, 4:31 pm

Sounds to me like you were possibly rowing on non C2 ergs, prior to switching gyms. I have seen similar posts to this quite a number of times before, but the person was rowing on an entirely different machine to a C2.

WaterRower machines for example. They give more generous times than a C2!!!
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Re: 2000 meter time

Post by mitchel674 » March 14th, 2019, 6:49 pm

Anth_F wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 4:31 pm
Sounds to me like you were possibly rowing on non C2 ergs, prior to switching gyms. I have seen similar posts to this quite a number of times before, but the person was rowing on an entirely different machine to a C2.

WaterRower machines for example. They give more generous times than a C2!!!
This! I felt like a beast last year when we vacationed at a spa in Utah with water rowers. I crushed all of my times. Then I came back to reality when I got home on my model D.
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Re: 2000 meter time

Post by DavidA » March 18th, 2019, 4:21 pm

mitchel674 wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 6:49 pm
Anth_F wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 4:31 pm
Sounds to me like you were possibly rowing on non C2 ergs, prior to switching gyms. I have seen similar posts to this quite a number of times before, but the person was rowing on an entirely different machine to a C2.

WaterRower machines for example. They give more generous times than a C2!!!
This! I felt like a beast last year when we vacationed at a spa in Utah with water rowers. I crushed all of my times. Then I came back to reality when I got home on my model D.
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