What Training Have You Done Today?

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » September 16th, 2020, 3:09 am

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I went into this knowing it was a gamble, and despite it not being what I know I'm capable of I'm happy with the result. I could have easily HDed during the 3k, but I assessed and adjusted to make it just about bearable.

I even tried to do the last 1k at r24. I gave up on that idea after about 300m and then tried again with 400m to go and soon gave up again. Last 200m was fuelled by pride to get it done.

I'm having a lot of false dawns in my recent training, but I just need to keep my head down and chip away. Humidity was high again, so I'm looking forward to autumn and winter temperatures.
46 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,331m HM= 1:18:40; FM= 2:45:49; 50k= 3:21:14; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » September 16th, 2020, 3:10 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 3:27 pm
Planned a hard 30R20 today, but 28°C let me switch to a short interval session, 6x1'/1'R R24
Plan was 315m each, but had a bit left at the end. Not all out, but a good and very sweaty session.

2k WU
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
6:00.0 1,893m 1:35.0 407 1701 24 160
1:00.0 315m 1:35.2 405 1694 24 151
1:00.0 315m 1:35.2 405 1694 24 158
1:00.0 315m 1:35.2 405 1694 24 161
1:00.0 315m 1:35.2 405 1694 24 160
1:00.0 316m 1:34.9 409 1707 24 165
1:00.0 317m 1:34.6 413 1721 24 167
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Tomorrow should be the last really hot day this year, can't wait to train around 10°C :)
Nice power Martin.

Today was too hot for mid September....bring on the drizzle :D
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by MartinSH4321 » September 16th, 2020, 3:45 am

iangallagher wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 12:19 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 3:27 pm
Planned a hard 30R20 today, but 28°C let me switch to a short interval session, 6x1'/1'R R24
Plan was 315m each, but had a bit left at the end. Not all out, but a good and very sweaty session.

2k WU
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
6:00.0 1,893m 1:35.0 407 1701 24 160
1:00.0 315m 1:35.2 405 1694 24 151
1:00.0 315m 1:35.2 405 1694 24 158
1:00.0 315m 1:35.2 405 1694 24 161
1:00.0 315m 1:35.2 405 1694 24 160
1:00.0 316m 1:34.9 409 1707 24 165
1:00.0 317m 1:34.6 413 1721 24 167
r99m
15' CD

Tomorrow should be the last really hot day this year, can't wait to train around 10°C :)
strong session Martin - look at those watts of such a low rate!!

Warming up here in Sydney. I frazzled in my garage today so need to have a think about some cooling solutions. Maybe a misting fan as hot air alone wont be cooling me!
winniewinser wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 3:10 am
Nice power Martin.

Today was too hot for mid September....bring on the drizzle :D
Thanks fellas! :)

Amazing how much a few degrees can affect a training. I expect in Sydney you'll soon get into trouble without proper cooling. For me, >20°C is warm, >25°C hot and >30°C very hot, in Sydney I would run out of superlatives! :lol:
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LP: 1:06, 100m: 14.0, 1': 387m, 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43, 5k: 17:53, 30': 8130m, 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:51
60': 15779m, HM: 1:21:57
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by MartinSH4321 » September 16th, 2020, 3:51 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 3:09 am
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I went into this knowing it was a gamble, and despite it not being what I know I'm capable of I'm happy with the result. I could have easily HDed during the 3k, but I assessed and adjusted to make it just about bearable.

I even tried to do the last 1k at r24. I gave up on that idea after about 300m and then tried again with 400m to go and soon gave up again. Last 200m was fuelled by pride to get it done.

I'm having a lot of false dawns in my recent training, but I just need to keep my head down and chip away. Humidity was high again, so I'm looking forward to autumn and winter temperatures.
Great you finally got it done Stu! Only looking at the HR of the first 2 intervals I wouldn't think it was as hard as you described it, but HR alone often doesn't tell the full story :)
Martin, 1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 174
LP: 1:06, 100m: 14.0, 1': 387m, 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43, 5k: 17:53, 30': 8130m, 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:51
60': 15779m, HM: 1:21:57
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » September 16th, 2020, 3:59 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 3:09 am
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I went into this knowing it was a gamble, and despite it not being what I know I'm capable of I'm happy with the result. I could have easily HDed during the 3k, but I assessed and adjusted to make it just about bearable.

I even tried to do the last 1k at r24. I gave up on that idea after about 300m and then tried again with 400m to go and soon gave up again. Last 200m was fuelled by pride to get it done.

I'm having a lot of false dawns in my recent training, but I just need to keep my head down and chip away. Humidity was high again, so I'm looking forward to autumn and winter temperatures.
Well done for getting it done Stu.
I might give this a go later.....not at those paces though.
LWTM, 6'2" 48yo, 100m 17.9, 1min 337m, 500m 1:34.2, 1km 3:24.6, 2km 6:53.5, 5km 18:23.2, 6km 22:20.4, 30' 7858m, 10km 38:18.6, 60' 15,286m, HM 1:24:08.5, FM 3:08:12.8

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dino » September 16th, 2020, 4:52 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 3:09 am
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I went into this knowing it was a gamble, and despite it not being what I know I'm capable of I'm happy with the result. I could have easily HDed during the 3k, but I assessed and adjusted to make it just about bearable.

I even tried to do the last 1k at r24. I gave up on that idea after about 300m and then tried again with 400m to go and soon gave up again. Last 200m was fuelled by pride to get it done.

I'm having a lot of false dawns in my recent training, but I just need to keep my head down and chip away. Humidity was high again, so I'm looking forward to autumn and winter temperatures.
Great stuff - Looks a very tough workout that's for sure - esp. at that pace!
Looks a good way to churn through 16k as well by going 1,2,3,4,3,2,1 albeit much slower - I might try that this week.
You aren't the only one looking forward to cooler days for erging. I gave up last night on a HM and turned it into 3 x 30 instead as was just melting after 30 mins.
52M HWT 18/19, 19/20, 20/21 Team: 50Plus Zwift Rowing
1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:35.7, 2k 7:24.2, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by lindsayh » September 16th, 2020, 6:05 am

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » September 16th, 2020, 6:56 am

I traipsed into London for my HR test yesterday and as predicted it failed to produce any issues so I don't think they have any data to work from. The test was a treadmill which increased in incline and speed every 3 mins whilst being wired up to untold sensors. I don't run often so it was uncomfortable but I got to 168BPM with no issues and the consultant called it a day.

The consultant felt there was nothing underlying that I should be worrying about but I'll see what my BUPA cardiologist comes up with as a final assessment. Chances are I will resume some harder training and see what happens. If I get symptoms again they said just stop.....very useful.....hadn't thought of that :roll: .

Oh well....there are far more people worse off than me.
LWTM, 6'2" 48yo, 100m 17.9, 1min 337m, 500m 1:34.2, 1km 3:24.6, 2km 6:53.5, 5km 18:23.2, 6km 22:20.4, 30' 7858m, 10km 38:18.6, 60' 15,286m, HM 1:24:08.5, FM 3:08:12.8

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by MartinSH4321 » September 16th, 2020, 7:50 am

winniewinser wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 6:56 am
I traipsed into London for my HR test yesterday and as predicted it failed to produce any issues so I don't think they have any data to work from. The test was a treadmill which increased in incline and speed every 3 mins whilst being wired up to untold sensors. I don't run often so it was uncomfortable but I got to 168BPM with no issues and the consultant called it a day.

The consultant felt there was nothing underlying that I should be worrying about but I'll see what my BUPA cardiologist comes up with as a final assessment. Chances are I will resume some harder training and see what happens. If I get symptoms again they said just stop.....very useful.....hadn't thought of that :roll: .

Oh well....there are far more people worse off than me.
Very dissatisfying, no diagnosis once more! :(
Hopefully the harder training works without any issues, you deserve both training without concerns and and a lot of new PBs because of your massively increased aerobic base :)
Martin, 1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 174
LP: 1:06, 100m: 14.0, 1': 387m, 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43, 5k: 17:53, 30': 8130m, 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:51
60': 15779m, HM: 1:21:57
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » September 16th, 2020, 8:00 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 3:09 am
Image

I went into this knowing it was a gamble, and despite it not being what I know I'm capable of I'm happy with the result. I could have easily HDed during the 3k, but I assessed and adjusted to make it just about bearable.

I even tried to do the last 1k at r24. I gave up on that idea after about 300m and then tried again with 400m to go and soon gave up again. Last 200m was fuelled by pride to get it done.

I'm having a lot of false dawns in my recent training, but I just need to keep my head down and chip away. Humidity was high again, so I'm looking forward to autumn and winter temperatures.
Looks like a really solid session Stu with nice negative split averages.
52 yo, 6'3" 200#
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 373m, 500m - 1:21.9, 1K - 2:59.4, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.4, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8366m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:20:17, FM - 2:47:46

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » September 16th, 2020, 8:04 am

winniewinser wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 6:56 am
I traipsed into London for my HR test yesterday and as predicted it failed to produce any issues so I don't think they have any data to work from. The test was a treadmill which increased in incline and speed every 3 mins whilst being wired up to untold sensors. I don't run often so it was uncomfortable but I got to 168BPM with no issues and the consultant called it a day.

The consultant felt there was nothing underlying that I should be worrying about but I'll see what my BUPA cardiologist comes up with as a final assessment. Chances are I will resume some harder training and see what happens. If I get symptoms again they said just stop.....very useful.....hadn't thought of that :roll: .

Oh well....there are far more people worse off than me.
Overall it sounds positive though. It is amazing with all of the modern technology how many things are unexplained. I have PVCs that cause me to have abnormal EKGs and ultrasounds and the DR.s final conclusion after lots of test was - "some people just have them" and unless they bother me to leave alone.
52 yo, 6'3" 200#
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 373m, 500m - 1:21.9, 1K - 2:59.4, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.4, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8366m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:20:17, FM - 2:47:46

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » September 16th, 2020, 9:23 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 7:50 am
Very dissatisfying, no diagnosis once more! :(
Hopefully the harder training works without any issues, you deserve both training without concerns and and a lot of new PBs because of your massively increased aerobic base :)
KeithT wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 8:04 am
Overall it sounds positive though. It is amazing with all of the modern technology how many things are unexplained. I have PVCs that cause me to have abnormal EKGs and ultrasounds and the DR.s final conclusion after lots of test was - "some people just have them" and unless they bother me to leave alone.
Yes, both dissatisfying :( and positive :D .......I'll try and go with just the positives and restart a sensible training plan. I must also resist the urge to just go gung ho into PB attempts as that would no doubt lead to injuries. So tonight may be just an easy paced session to build again.

Thanks chaps
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by max_ratcliffe » September 16th, 2020, 9:34 am

winniewinser wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:23 am

Yes, both dissatisfying :( and positive :D .......I'll try and go with just the positives and restart a sensible training plan. I must also resist the urge to just go gung ho into PB attempts as that would no doubt lead to injuries. So tonight may be just an easy paced session to build again.

Thanks chaps
There's always a small part of anyone that wants some sort of definitive diagnosis even if it's bad, but this is positive news. I look forward to you "building", which I fully expect to involve you setting PB after PB.
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PBs: 1'=328m; 500m=1:38.2; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:34.7; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » September 16th, 2020, 10:51 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:34 am
winniewinser wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 9:23 am

Yes, both dissatisfying :( and positive :D .......I'll try and go with just the positives and restart a sensible training plan. I must also resist the urge to just go gung ho into PB attempts as that would no doubt lead to injuries. So tonight may be just an easy paced session to build again.

Thanks chaps
There's always a small part of anyone that wants some sort of definitive diagnosis even if it's bad, but this is positive news. I look forward to you "building", which I fully expect to involve you setting PB after PB.
I'll do my best Max :D
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » September 16th, 2020, 12:09 pm

winniewinser wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 6:56 am
I traipsed into London for my HR test yesterday and as predicted it failed to produce any issues so I don't think they have any data to work from. The test was a treadmill which increased in incline and speed every 3 mins whilst being wired up to untold sensors. I don't run often so it was uncomfortable but I got to 168BPM with no issues and the consultant called it a day.

The consultant felt there was nothing underlying that I should be worrying about but I'll see what my BUPA cardiologist comes up with as a final assessment. Chances are I will resume some harder training and see what happens. If I get symptoms again they said just stop.....very useful.....hadn't thought of that :roll: .

Oh well....there are far more people worse off than me.
Well, that's good and bad news. From what I have read about SVT, and you probably know already, it can come and go so maybe you'll have an extended period of no issue? Hopefully anyway.
46 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,331m HM= 1:18:40; FM= 2:45:49; 50k= 3:21:14; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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