What Training Have You Done Today?

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by robbiep » November 21st, 2020, 5:05 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 1:39 pm

Thanks Robbie, it's a decent solution rather than no racing, but it's still not ideal.
If you're interested, I found the video of your race :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNEf15_ ... tishRowing

It's 5 hrs and 52 minutes into the broadcast
https://log.concept2.com/profile/41592/log

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50+ PBs : (recent in red)
100m 17.0 / 500m 1:36.3 / 1k 3:32.2 / 2k 7:29.9 / 5k 19:51.7 / 6k 23:53.3 / 10k 41:36.4
HM 1:29:38.2 / 1 min 310m / 30 min 7407m / 60 min 14124m

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dino » November 21st, 2020, 6:50 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 11:38 am
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Really didn't enjoy this. It looked like it was running 20 mins late, then there was a false start (I wasn't sure if it was me or not), and it said 'Go' not 'Row' so I was confused if it was time to start.

I couldn't get my chimp out of my head from 700m onwards, and I faded badly at the end. Rowing mid-afternoon is a unique experience and I probably mis-timed my lunch.

I know quite a lot of people would love this result, but it wasn't what I think I'm capable of on another day, albeit it probably wouldn't be too much faster.
You definitely gave away 10-12m at the start - the false start cant have helped. I think that could have made all the difference to how the row went. With 500m to go you were only about 12m behind 3rd place... if you had been level I think the competitiveness would have kicked you to go deeper into the cave and get pulled along. I know from my limited racing on Zwift that it definitely helps you to dig deep when someone is close and I am much more likely to bury myself in a sprint when in a bunch - but once the elastic snaps getting back becomes very difficult physically and mentally. But anyway its still a great time... you entered, took part and gave it a good go... which is more than can be said for the armchair observer, i.e. me!.
52M HWT 18/19, 19/20, 20/21 - Team: 50Plus - Zwift Rowing
1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:31.6, 2k 7:16.8, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » November 22nd, 2020, 2:31 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 1:43 pm
That's a very good result Stu, even if you can go faster on a better day and under better conditions for sure.
Dino wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 6:50 pm
You definitely gave away 10-12m at the start - the false start cant have helped. I think that could have made all the difference to how the row went. With 500m to go you were only about 12m behind 3rd place... if you had been level I think the competitiveness would have kicked you to go deeper into the cave and get pulled along. I know from my limited racing on Zwift that it definitely helps you to dig deep when someone is close and I am much more likely to bury myself in a sprint when in a bunch - but once the elastic snaps getting back becomes very difficult physically and mentally. But anyway its still a great time... you entered, took part and gave it a good go... which is more than can be said for the armchair observer, i.e. me!.
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November 21st, 2020, 4:17 pm
Watched your race Stu...amongst several others and I thought you did really well after one of the worst starts of the day. You gave the field about 25m start before your boat moved - I thought the tech must have failed. After that, rather than banging out a stupid sprint to catch up you set off at steady 1:38s and by 500 had rowed through half the field to get into 4th. After that, you still made progress, but tbh never looked like you would catch third. Equally 5th didn't squeeze you at all. So a really solid position in the race and maybe no incentive to bury yourself. Other than the start, well done I thought - so don't beat yourself up!
Thanks fellas. I know it was probably the result I was always going to get, but it wasn't enjoyable with the timing, assuming it was still running late, the false start etc.

My thoughts were so scrambled that I wasn't sure if I should start or not due to the previous false start and it not saying Row.
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » November 22nd, 2020, 2:32 am

winniewinser wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 4:10 pm
For a 2k only just outside your PB after a false start too is fantastic effort imho. Nothing but positives under the circumstances and what you've had in your plate recently....kudos Stu!!! 👊👏👊👏

You give a lot to others in the rowing community... accept the praise that is deserved especially through the adversity encountered.
Thanks very much Alex. I'm far more comfortable giving praise than accepting it :wink:
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » November 22nd, 2020, 2:34 am

robbiep wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 5:05 pm
If you're interested, I found the video of your race :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNEf15_ ... tishRowing

It's 5 hrs and 52 minutes into the broadcast
Thanks Robbie, that is interesting, not least as I had no proper idea of what pace I was doing as my average pace was way too high, for too long, after that start.
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » November 22nd, 2020, 4:54 am

robbiep wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 5:05 pm
Dangerscouse wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 1:39 pm

Thanks Robbie, it's a decent solution rather than no racing, but it's still not ideal.
If you're interested, I found the video of your race :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNEf15_ ... tishRowing

It's 5 hrs and 52 minutes into the broadcast
Thanks for sharing that Robbie...was good to watch my race back 👍. Surprised I was in the high 30's SR for the last 500.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by max_ratcliffe » November 22nd, 2020, 6:20 am

Small matter of 746km round trip to pick up a puppy. Two very excited children and one very grumpy cat.

Don't think I'll get on the erg today.
50 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=298m; 500m=1:42.4; 1k=3:36.0; 2k=7:43.8; 5k=20:35; 6k=TBC; 30'=TBC; 10k=42:50; 60'=TBC; HM=NGTFH

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by max_ratcliffe » November 22nd, 2020, 7:24 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 11:38 am
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Really didn't enjoy this. It looked like it was running 20 mins late, then there was a false start (I wasn't sure if it was me or not), and it said 'Go' not 'Row' so I was confused if it was time to start.

I couldn't get my chimp out of my head from 700m onwards, and I faded badly at the end. Rowing mid-afternoon is a unique experience and I probably mis-timed my lunch.

I know quite a lot of people would love this result, but it wasn't what I think I'm capable of on another day, albeit it probably wouldn't be too much faster.
You're not supposed to enjoy a 2k! No question that you'll go faster without the completely disrupted start.
50 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=298m; 500m=1:42.4; 1k=3:36.0; 2k=7:43.8; 5k=20:35; 6k=TBC; 30'=TBC; 10k=42:50; 60'=TBC; HM=NGTFH

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » November 22nd, 2020, 7:31 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 6:20 am
Small matter of 746km round trip to pick up a puppy. Two very excited children and one very grumpy cat.

Don't think I'll get on the erg today.
Prepare for some more sleepless nights Max. We've had Lenny 🐾 for 6 weeks now....the first 3 were tough.

Good luck!
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by max_ratcliffe » November 22nd, 2020, 8:09 am

winniewinser wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 7:31 am
max_ratcliffe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 6:20 am
Small matter of 746km round trip to pick up a puppy. Two very excited children and one very grumpy cat.

Don't think I'll get on the erg today.
Prepare for some more sleepless nights Max. We've had Lenny 🐾 for 6 weeks now....the first 3 were tough.

Good luck!
Our last puppy was in 2005 and he was tough for a few months. Two human puppies since then and they're still hard work, with no sign of that abating any time soon.
50 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=298m; 500m=1:42.4; 1k=3:36.0; 2k=7:43.8; 5k=20:35; 6k=TBC; 30'=TBC; 10k=42:50; 60'=TBC; HM=NGTFH

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by flatbread » November 22nd, 2020, 8:11 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 6:20 am
Small matter of 746km round trip to pick up a puppy. Two very excited children and one very grumpy cat.

Don't think I'll get on the erg today.
I'll bite: for what sort of dog does one drive nearly 750km? An acquaintance drove 12 hours each way for a what eventually grew to be a long, tall, robust, wavy-haired Goldendoodle that is, more or less, Chewbacca Dog. Worth it.

(We've had a black labrador and a golden retreiver -- at the same rambunctious time -- and now a flat-coated/border collie mix shelter mutt)
54, 1m84, 75kg

RHR 40, MHR 168 (on bike -- no idea for the erg)

10k 38:05, 5k 18:07, 2k 7:00

2020 power bests on bike: 405w 5min, 357w 20min, 350w 60min

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » November 22nd, 2020, 8:17 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 6:20 am
Small matter of 746km round trip to pick up a puppy. Two very excited children and one very grumpy cat.

Don't think I'll get on the erg today.
746km?!?!? I remember when I travelled around Oz in 1999/2000 and someone said to me that they drove 10 hours each way for a weekend away. There's just a totally different view on driving in Oz, as anything longer than three hours and most people are getting very twitchy
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » November 22nd, 2020, 8:25 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 7:24 am
You're not supposed to enjoy a 2k! No question that you'll go faster without the completely disrupted start.
Hahaha, it was an absence of pleasure for any of it, not including the 2k fear and loathing, that was the problem. Just nothing there to fuel the fire when I needed it.

The mess of a start really threw off my game, and I'm now aware that I'm far too high maintenance for events that I can't pick the time and day that I can race
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by max_ratcliffe » November 22nd, 2020, 9:01 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 8:17 am
max_ratcliffe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 6:20 am
Small matter of 746km round trip to pick up a puppy. Two very excited children and one very grumpy cat.

Don't think I'll get on the erg today.
746km?!?!? I remember when I travelled around Oz in 1999/2000 and someone said to me that they drove 10 hours each way for a weekend away. There's just a totally different view on driving in Oz, as anything longer than three hours and most people are getting very twitchy
flatbread wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 8:11 am
max_ratcliffe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 6:20 am
Small matter of 746km round trip to pick up a puppy. Two very excited children and one very grumpy cat.

Don't think I'll get on the erg today.
I'll bite: for what sort of dog does one drive nearly 750km? An acquaintance drove 12 hours each way for a what eventually grew to be a long, tall, robust, wavy-haired Goldendoodle that is, more or less, Chewbacca Dog. Worth it.

(We've had a black labrador and a golden retreiver -- at the same rambunctious time -- and now a flat-coated/border collie mix shelter mutt)
He's a Murray Retriever. All the SA-based Labrador breeders didn't have litters this year, partly due to COVID. Lots of dithering and wondering about other breeds later, we still hadn't got a dog.

Then we found out that the mother of one of my wife's roller derby league members breeds these and had a litter in September.

The distance is just a function of getting anywhere in Aus. The rapidly changing COVID rules resulted in us changing our plans from a relatively leisurely two-day trip to today's mentalism.

He's had a tough day:

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50 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=298m; 500m=1:42.4; 1k=3:36.0; 2k=7:43.8; 5k=20:35; 6k=TBC; 30'=TBC; 10k=42:50; 60'=TBC; HM=NGTFH

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Tandstad » November 22nd, 2020, 9:55 am

Ended the week today with a UT2 60r20, exactly 1200 strokes, while watching The Wolf of Wall street. Ended the week at 51k.

Splits
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00:00 15,028m 1:59.7 204 1000 20
12:00.0 2,977m 2:00.9 198 981 20
24:00.0 3,008m 1:59.6 204 1002 20
36:00.0 3,015m 1:59.4 206 1007 20
48:00.0 2,972m 2:01.1 197 977 20
1:00:00 3,057m 1:57.7 214 1037 20

Last week was a good one, this one was not so good. I was not expecting to fail the 2x30 min @2 min rest @1:47 pace on Wednesday, but I have been feeling a little tired. A lot of bad excuses could have been listed, but I am just hoping the coming week will be better :D

A lot of good rowing in here now with the championship, and also some new and very fast guys arriving, which is always exciting :)
36YO, 188 cm, 109 kg, NOR. Instagram: jtands
1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 6K: 20:53(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)

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