Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

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Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by robbieburton » July 21st, 2021, 10:45 pm

Hi, I'm planning to buy myself a heart rate monitor, but I'm still confused about which one.
Does anyone suggest? Thanks!

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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by Dangerscouse » July 22nd, 2021, 3:37 am

Personally, I wouldn't recommend any watches for HR, as a chest strap is far more accurate. I use a CooSpo (cheap and reliable) and I have also used Wahoo Tickr, which is also good.
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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by jamesg » July 22nd, 2021, 4:25 am

I too use a Polar belt (the second one in 20 years) which connects to a watch and to PM5 at the same time, and from there to ergdata. Batteries are long life, cheap and easily replaced.

If interested only in rowing on a C2 erg you can in the meantime use Watts or Rating, or both, as control. However this will need a real stroke and can get very sweaty. The distance rating is up to 23 and aerobic max about 27 if young enough. I also used 2W/kg once upon a time, for distance work; 1.5 is getting tough now tho'.

In any case HR has lowest priority as control, since it gives no idea as to quality. Your watch won't tell you how to pole jump or throw a discus, nor even how to pull a flywheel to best effect.
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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by Rick » July 22nd, 2021, 10:58 am

I couldn’t find a watch that was reliable or stayed on through workouts. I went with the Garmin HRM-Dual strap type monitor when I bought my Model D earlier this year. I connects to the PM5 easily, stays connected throughout, and appears to be very accurate.

Obviously, not an answer to your specific question, but I’d recommend a strap type monitor if you want a consistent reading, easy connection, and the ability to log heart rate in your ErgData files.
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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by mict450 » July 23rd, 2021, 1:53 am

Wrist watch heart rate monitors are unreliable when used with the erg. A chest strap or optical HRM are much more accurate.
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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by DavidA » July 23rd, 2021, 2:38 pm

The Apple watch is very accurate, and works quite well while erging.

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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by Tsnor » July 23rd, 2021, 6:03 pm

IF you want a smart watch for other functions, look for one that will ALSO connect to a belt for rowing.

A belt does poorly for 24x7 monitoring, step counting, etc. A belt is not a good substitute for a smartwatch.

A smart watch will report a HR while rowing, however without a belt you will not be able to tell the difference between good and bad HR data. And if you choose your workout effort level based on HR you risk overtraining. I can show you hiking and rowing data comparing a fitbit charge 3 and polar h10 belt that shows this risk is very real. Perhaps a better HR watch than the fitibit would not have this problem. But you won't know without the belt.

A polar h10 belt has the advantage of connecting to multiple capture devices. So the PM5 can display HR, ErgData can display HR and your smart watch can capture the correct HR data and upload it to whatever SW you use (e.g. polar beat/flow).

If you want to try out heartrate variance (HRV) data you will also need a device that works for HRV analysis. Some belts work and so do a few optical devices. Check out the doc for app EliteHRV for details in the supported devices section and the smartwatch doc to see what they can do.

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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by mict450 » July 23rd, 2021, 11:56 pm

DavidA wrote:
July 23rd, 2021, 2:38 pm
The Apple watch is very accurate, and works quite well while erging.

David
Good to know. They're kinda pricey, though. Probably doesn't work with Android?
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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by 41ants » July 28th, 2021, 9:25 am

I have a garmin vivo active 4 and it works, but my background is cycling and while riding I always opt for the chest strap due to it's accuracy being superior.

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Re: Looking for a smart watch that monitors heart rate

Post by kini62 » July 29th, 2021, 11:26 pm

I use a polar m430. It works about 90% of the time on the erg. It's as accurate as my forearm band HR strap.
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