What Training Have You Done Today?

[iain]

I hadn't even heard of diverticulitis until this forum, but now I'm seeing that it's more common than I realised. Can you have a milder, undiagnosed version or is it very obvious when you're suffering from it?

I have been aware of the issue since teenage years and so worked to avoid it becoming a problem (basically a weakness in the intestines that balloon's out trapping food in a pocket (a "diverticula") that doesn't continue down the gut and gets inflamed). As such I have never experienced a diagnosed case. In the extreme this can lead to the gut bursting or getting so severely infected that a part needs to be removed. There is a milder condition - diverticulosis which is the condition before the inflammation. I suspect that it is only the more severe cases that are diagnosed as many persistent bowel pains are given the unhelpful diagnosis of "IBS". I suspect only a colonoscopy would reveal the diverticulae, but would be interested in any experience / expertise from other forum members.

[alex9026]

14:53.3 4,500 1:39.2 358 1531 28
2:33.0 750 1:42.0 330 1435 26
r: 2:00 173
2:32.6 750 1:41.7 332 1444 26
r: 2:00 217
2:32.8 750 1:41.8 331 1439 25
r: 2:00 254
2:32.6 750 1:41.7 332 1444 25
r: 6:00 936
2:22.2 750 1:34.8 411 1713 32
r: 2:00 139
2:20.0 750 1:33.3 430 1781 35

4x750/2:00 at estimated 5k pace
Long rest
2x750/2:00 at target 2k pace

34:26.0 9,000 1:54.7 231 1096 20
11:48.7 3,000 1:58.1 212 1030 20
11:33.6 6,000 1:55.6 227 1079 21
11:03.7 9,000 1:50.6 259 1189 22

Ramped up to a "grey zone" cool down.

Felt good, gambled on a tough low rate 20k yesterday with no ill effects today. Was a tad conservative on the first four 750's as I wanted to make sure I'd go under 1:35 for the final two.

Off to the Doctor's later to have my hernia looked at, just to put a downer on the day!

[Dangerscouse]

Chain and sprocket for your Erg? I tried the BikeErg once, quite liked it and if I had the opportunity to, I'd favour one post interval session instead of my typical 5-10k on the RowErg. However, it's a bit of a luxury I can't justify when that would be its primary purpose.

Yeah. It's making a bit of a grinding noise at the start, so I'm assuming that it's eventually got damaged through too much moisture. The two dehum....ers I've got draw out a few litres of water every 10 days or so, and I've had quite a few years with only those chemical versions that aren't as good as can easily be not changed for too long.

Dangerspouse is trying to convince not to use the bikeerg as she reckons I'll like it and then want to buy one...no idea why she'd think that

It's also a luxury I couldn't rely justify so I'm sure I won't want to get one. I also seem to get bored on stationary bikes really quickly. 10 mins is a long time for me in previous experience.

[jcross485]

Strength work today. All things considered, I felt pretty darn good; I felt like I was pretty warm and loose pretty quick into my warm up (more so than normal) and the deadlifts, while being pretty light with respect to percent of 1RM / training max, moved very fast and explosively. Pull-ups and dips felt strong as well.

Warmup w/ empty barbell - Barbell Row, Standing Press, Barbell Row, SLDL / RDL, Band Dislocation. 5 rounds, 5 reps each (10 reps Band Dislocations).

Deadlift - 135 x 5 reps, 205 x 5 reps, 255 x 5 reps, 295 x 5 reps x 5 sets. 10 reps Band Dislocations after each set.

Weighted Pull-Ups & Weighted Dips - BW x 3 reps, +25 x 3 reps, +45 x 3 reps x 5 sets. 10 reps Band Dislocations after each set.

[p_b82]

Wasn't sure what to expect today, put in 7500m, but Hr read 60 when setting it up, and I stupidly changed it to 1hr...

Hr back to where I'd expect it, but perceived bodily function resulted in a stoppage, turned out after I hit stop it was just wind....
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
24:01.6 5,592 2:08.8 163 862 24 167
12:00.0 2,794 2:08.8 164 863 24 164
24:00.0 2,794 2:08.8 164 863 24 171
24:01.5 5 2:30.0 104 656 0 171

figured I needed to make up for the early stop and decided that back should be tested . 300w target

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
2:04.3 600 1:43.5 315 1383 33 175
0:41.8 200 1:44.5 307 1355 34 165
0:41.1 400 1:42.7 323 1410 34 178
0:41.4 600 1:43.5 316 1386 32 184

then a >325W 400m than crept to >350 while at it.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:19.3 400 1:39.1 359 1536 38 163
0:20.3 100 1:41.5 335 1451 38 147
0:19.5 200 1:37.5 378 1599 40 162
0:19.7 300 1:38.5 366 1560 37 170
0:19.8 400 1:39.0 361 1541 39 176

tried to do a 5min cool down, but binned it after 1min as 2:30 was too much like hard work - and body then said "no it wasn't isn't just wind, you do need to go"

[flatbread]

Base meters. A 60min piece, water break, then 30min, then kick-pick-pause drills cool down. On slides as usual.

1:36:08.5 22,671 2:07.2 170 884 20

10:00.0 2,356 2:07.3 170 883 19
20:00.0 2,382 2:05.9 175 902 19
30:00.0 2,391 2:05.4 177 909 20
40:00.0 2,397 2:05.1 179 914 21
50:00.0 2,390 2:05.5 177 909 21
1:00:00.0 2,386 2:05.7 176 906 21
1:10:00.0 2,381 2:05.9 175 902 21
1:20:00.0 2,398 2:05.1 179 915 22
1:30:00.0 2,394 2:05.3 178 912 22
1:36:08.5 1,194 2:34.3 95 627 17

[alex9026]

Yeah. It's making a bit of a grinding noise at the start, so I'm assuming that it's eventually got damaged through too much moisture. The two dehum....ers I've got draw out a few litres of water every 10 days or so, and I've had quite a few years with only those chemical versions that aren't as good as can easily be not changed for too long.

Dangerspouse is trying to convince not to use the bikeerg as she reckons I'll like it and then want to buy one...no idea why she'd think that

It's also a luxury I couldn't rely justify so I'm sure I won't want to get one. I also seem to get bored on stationary bikes really quickly. 10 mins is a long time for me in previous experience.

Blinking flip, I don't want to know how much moisture is in my garage, I hadn't thought about putting a *** DELETE - SPAM *** in there.

It's funny how you can get bored after ten minutes on a static bike, but have rowed 100k I used to do a lot of work on the Wattbike, regular 90+ minute sessions, which I've no intention of ever repeating.

[Sakly]

30min row to see how it feels. Got some relief from the pressure in the gut since yesterday afternoon, so thought to give it a try.
Not too bad, but shortened the stroke a bit to prevent too much pressure, which still occurs. And it felt like rowing in mud
Anyway, some meters in and giving some confidence, when no negative effects follow.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	♥️
30:11.1	7,220	2:05.4	177	910	17	139

Good to see you back rowing!

A very respected GI surgeon told me years ago that to avoid/minimse diverticulitis you need to have plenty of roughage in your diet. It is pushing on this that keeps the intestinal muscles fit. More recently a less eminent surgeon suggested that I largely cut roughage from my diet. Not sure whether thought has moved on, but I suspect that he was advising for the short term. Hopefully I have over 25 years more in me so not ready to start a slow decline. If exercise drops off later in life this means the gut has to work harder! So I have ignored the second "expert". Much less diverticula issues than my father or grandfather and just accept that sometimes I will suffer from flatulence!

Thank you, I still have hope it gets better next days

In terms of nutrition there is so much controversial information out there. I think you need to try out what works best for you individually and recently I felt very good without much fiber. I don't know the reasons why I got a diverticulitis and noone is able to tell a definitive root cause. Very likely my current issues are more related to the antibiotics and destroyed gut biome, as inflammation marker were down to normal already some days after hospital.
I need to stay calm for some more days/weeks and hope for the best!

[putridp]

Once back to normal, fitness will come back, so that's not an issue. It's only a mental burden for me, as I would like to go hard for stuff, but my body is telling me otherwise

Good luck with your recovery. Waiting until you're physically ready to train hard again can be so frustrating, it's something I have really struggled to deal with.

[Dangerscouse]

Blinking flip, I don't want to know how much moisture is in my garage, I hadn't thought about putting a *** DELETE - SPAM *** in there.

It's funny how you can get bored after ten minutes on a static bike, but have rowed 100k I used to do a lot of work on the Wattbike, regular 90+ minute sessions, which I've no intention of ever repeating.

I row in a loft conversion, so it's worse than a lot of other places (roof insulation, heat rising etc) so it used to be a proper sweat box. It wasn't too rare to see 99% humidity before I got the decent dehum...ers. I wouldn't worry too much if you're not getting black spot mould, or if there's not much plaster or timber.

I've never figured out why bikes bore me so quickly, but I'm wondering if a bikeerg would be different due to the familiarity of the PM5. Tbh, I've not tried Wattbikes or any other good quality bike, so that could well be the difference

[Dangerscouse]

I need to stay calm for some more days/weeks and hope for the best!

You'll be fighting fit again soon, you always find a way, but clearly it would be good if the science was more defined and you knew for certain what the issue was

[nick rockliff]

I hadn't even heard of diverticulitis until this forum, but now I'm seeing that it's more common than I realised. Can you have a milder, undiagnosed version or is it very obvious when you're suffering from it?

I have been aware of the issue since teenage years and so worked to avoid it becoming a problem (basically a weakness in the intestines that balloon's out trapping food in a pocket (a "diverticula") that doesn't continue down the gut and gets inflamed). As such I have never experienced a diagnosed case. In the extreme this can lead to the gut bursting or getting so severely infected that a part needs to be removed. There is a milder condition - diverticulosis which is the condition before the inflammation. I suspect that it is only the more severe cases that are diagnosed as many persistent bowel pains are given the unhelpful diagnosis of "IBS". I suspect only a colonoscopy would reveal the diverticulae, but would be interested in any experience / expertise from other forum members.

Many people have diverticular disease and don't know about it. I had mine pointed out many times during colonoscopy. I was always told it's wear and tear and mainly lower down on the decending colon, so lower left of abdomen. I've never had a severe flare up just an achey sort of feeling and a bit bloated. I often think higher intensity sessions on the erg can have an effect too but may be wrong.

[alex9026]

2:45.4 1,000 1:22.7 619 2429 48
0:33.8 200 1:24.5 580 2296 46
0:33.2 200 1:23.0 612 2406 45
0:33.0 200 1:22.5 623 2445 45
0:33.0 200 1:22.5 623 2445 51
0:32.4 200 1:21.0 659 2566 54

5x200/3:00. This is a session from a 500m program I have been loosely following on recent weeks and followed my first strength session in over a fortnight. Sprinting is absolutely not my forte and never has been, but I'm a firm believer in getting comfortable at X pace to make X pace at a longer distance feel that tiny bit easier. If only it was that simple!

The Dr pretty much cleared me of a hernia yesterday (wouldn't have done the above otherwise), but whatever is going on still needs addressing.

[jcross485]

The "plan" today was some shorter, sharper efforts targeting 2k effort (or faster) but unfortunately like any good plan, someone upstairs had other ideas. Woke up to our older dog in pretty rough shape, reminiscent of when his mother who we had for a long time had a stroke and ultimately didn't make it. By the time we take care of whatever needs to be done, I'll likely be a bit drained from that and from supporting my wife and kids to do much of anything; on top of that, temps will hit 110F+ here and come afternoon with the sun baking the garage through the door, I just won't do much. I also picked up a work project yesterday that will have me out of state next week (Sun - Sat) and likely won't have access to my normal equipment so I will be making due with lots of pull-ups, push-ups, and walking lunges. Not the way I envisioned starting off a new training block but I don't have any contests or deadlines and am not in any kind of rush for anything specific.

[Dangerscouse]

2:45.4 1,000 1:22.7 619 2429 48
0:33.8 200 1:24.5 580 2296 46
0:33.2 200 1:23.0 612 2406 45
0:33.0 200 1:22.5 623 2445 45
0:33.0 200 1:22.5 623 2445 51
0:32.4 200 1:21.0 659 2566 54

5x200/3:00. This is a session from a 500m program I have been loosely following on recent weeks and followed my first strength session in over a fortnight. Sprinting is absolutely not my forte and never has been, but I'm a firm believer in getting comfortable at X pace to make X pace at a longer distance feel that tiny bit easier. If only it was that simple!

The Dr pretty much cleared me of a hernia yesterday (wouldn't have done the above otherwise), but whatever is going on still needs addressing.

Strong effort.

That's good that it's not a hernia, but bad that you dont know what it actually is.