Ranger's training thread

[snowleopard]

Picture or it didn't happen

I have already posted the pic, multiple times.


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Nothing to say ranger rowed that. And nothing since to back it up
ranger

See that wasn't hard, now post some pictures of some of these amazing training sessions rather than just talking about them. Preferably from 2011 rather than 2007 after all no point living in the past is there?

Nothing to say ranger rowed that. And nothing since to back it up

[KevJGK]

Back over to you, Kev.

Here you go then, this is an exact simulation of my 500 PB.



And consider, I can do 2K at 13 SPI+ without breaking sweat or even 10K at 16SPI very easily if it floats your boat.

Basing your training on SPI is pointless

[ranger]

Back over to you, Kev.

Here you go then, this is an exact simulation of my 500 PB.



Before you comment just consider, I can do 2K at 13 SPI+ without breaking sweat or even 10K at 16SPI very easily if it floats your boat.

Basing your training on SPI is pointless

I don't know, Kev.

That's a nice 12.5 SPI you're pulling in the 500m @ 35 spm.

But if 12.5 SPI is really your natural stroking power, then, holding your technique together, you can only rate 24 spm for 2K.

12.5 SPI @ 24 spm is 1:45/7:00/300 watts.

I don't know what to say about this.

Most people can row close to a FM at 24 spm, which is only a UT1 rate.

When I was your age (almost a decade ago), I rated 38 spm for 2K.

12.5 SPI @ 24 spm is right about what I'll try to do for a HM when I give it a go in a month or so.

But that's because, unlike you, my natural stroking power is indeed 12.5 SPI.

I run a heart rate of about 160 bpm, steady state, when I do 12.5 SPI @ 24 spm.

My anaerobic threshold is 172 bpm.

What about you?

ranger

[ranger]

Nothing to say ranger rowed that. And nothing since to back it up

Oh B.S.

When screen shots are also not "proof," then there is none, and can be none.

No one is here rowing in my basement but me.

A year or so before I pulled this 500m, when I was 55 years old, I rowed sub-6:30 for 2K @ 12 SPI, without even preparing for it.

This 2K was at the Baltimore Burn, a public race venue.

Is there no evidence that I did that, either?

Would you claim that it was just an illusion, a figment of the imagination of everyone (and the ergs and electronic equipment) at the venue, but clearly non-existent for everyone who wasn't there?

I suspect that no lightweight can pull 500r30 @ 1:30 who can't pull sub-6:30 for 2K, perhaps sub-6:20.

ranger

[KevJGK]

When I was your age (almost a decade ago), I rated 38 spm for 2K.

Yes, like quite a few others out there - you are faster than me.

I can live with it.

[ranger]

Could Mike Caviston, Graham Watt, Paul Siebach, Stu Bizzari, Lancs, etc., pull 500r30 @ 1:30?

It would be a close call.

My guess would be no.

ranger

[ranger]

When I was your age (almost a decade ago), I rated 38 spm for 2K.

Yes, like quite a few others out there - you are faster than me.

I can live with it.

I wasn't referring to how fast I am.

I was referring to the bizarre stats surrounding your rowing.

If you hold your technique together, you can only rate 24 spm for 2K.

That's nonsense.

You need to have someone check out your technique.

You must be doing something _really_ funky to be so inefficient.

Could you post a video rowing some 1:45 @ 24 spm (12.5 SPI), for, say, 500m or so, 45 strokes?

I would be happy to do the same.

That's just some of my "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy" rowing.

Maybe we can find out what you are doing wrong.

Are you short-sliding?

Are you mistiming and missequencing your levers?

Is your posture poor?

Are you arhythmic?

Are you tensing your shoulders and arms at the catch?

Are you unprepared at the catch?

Are you imbalanced?

Are your legs slow?

Are you omitting some levers entirely?

Are you miscoordinated at the footplate?

What?

What?

What drag are you rowing at?

ranger

[KevJGK]

I was referring to the bizarre stats surrounding your rowing.

Sorry, no short sliding or mistiming here. Sequencing is perfect, posture is perfect, rhythm is excellent, no tension, fully prepared and balanced. Legs are super fast.

Is it because I can erg 13+ SPI at 8spm?

What's wrong with that?

[snowleopard]

I suspect that no lightweight can pull 500r30 @ 1:30 who can't pull sub-6:30 for 2K, perhaps sub-6:20.

You were a hwt when you posted those 500s (allegedly rowed by you) and when you rowed at Baltimore.

If you are much better now it will be a simple matter to post a pic' of a sub 1:30 hwt 500 in the next 12 hours.

[Steve G]

Rich
Did you let the organisers know you couldn't,t be at Boston, this was asked pages ago but ignored!

[speedhunter]

Hi Ranger
No Boston this year?
Speedhunter

[bellboy]

If at all possible I will do my best to be classified in any group to which you belong.

Not sure what you mean here.

Until you are 60 years old, you can't be rowing in the 60s age group, as I am.

You have younger rowers to compete against.

I am older than you.

ranger

So why have you spent the last year putting your name on the top of ergers who race in another age group then? You can't have it both ways you tool.

[ranger]

I was referring to the bizarre stats surrounding your rowing.

Sorry, no short sliding or mistiming here. Sequencing is perfect, posture is perfect, rhythm is excellent, no tension, fully prepared and balanced. Legs are super fast.

Post a video.

Let's have a look.

ranger

[ranger]

I suspect that no lightweight can pull 500r30 @ 1:30 who can't pull sub-6:30 for 2K, perhaps sub-6:20.

You were a hwt when you posted those 500s (allegedly rowed by you) and when you rowed at Baltimore.

If you are much better now it will be a simple matter to post a pic' of a sub 1:30 hwt 500 in the next 12 hours.

I no longer row at 16 SPI, max drag, and restricted rates.

I row at 13 SPI and low drag (119 df.), free rate.

I am _much_ better now than I was back in 2007.

The training I did for several years at 16 SPI was just work on technique.

ranger

[ranger]

You can't have it both ways you tool.

Time to wake up, kid.

Get your head out of the sand.

In this brave new world of ours, you can have it any old way you can get it.

Bernie has shown us how.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff

ranger