Ranger's training thread

[hjs]

A fact, by definition, is something that actually exists. When and if Paul Siebach breaks Roy's record it will become a fact, at the moment it is just another diversion you are using because you cannot explain(without admitting failure) why you did not break Roy's record. You failed and thats a FACT. Roy's record still stands thats another fact.
If you ever show us some screen shots they may be facts but until you do they are not facts just a dream or a goal.
As young people say today on the internet "picture or it didn't happen".C'mon Rich cut to the chase show us a shot of the PM4 of some of your training sessions.

He not just failed, but failed year are after year. He raced more than anybody else.

And he not just did that he also said evey year that that year he would erg 6.16

He also said every year that this year was different, he was now 100% ready and his strokes was finally fixed.

[hjs]

What happened to the oft stated goal of smashing Rocket Roy's soft world record? It may indeed be soft but it proved too hard for you.

If I pull a lwt 6:16 2K at 60, I won't care that someone five years younger pulled a 2K 22 seconds slower.

If I pull a lwt 6:16 at 60, I won't care that someone five years younger pulled a 2K 22 seconds slower.

Roy's record will soon be gone.

It is indeed soft.

The same year that Roy pulled 6:38, I pulled 6:29.7, at max drag, without even preparing for it, just on the basis of low rate rowing, working on technique.

ranger

And your weight and age at the time you pulled 6:29.7 was?

Way above 80 kg, but this row was indeed very impressive, his best row ever looking at his age than, that same year he rowed as a lightweight and got a 7.xx plus.................

[ranger]

Nice hour on the Kurt Kinetic after a similar hour of erging.

HR flat at 155 bpm.

This biking is now _very_ easy.

I can push it out to 50 miles (2.5 hours) and will do so over the next month or so.

Rowing at 155 bpm is similarly easy.

Now, I just need to push that out to 2.5 hours, too, HR flat at 155 bpm.

Both done for 2.5 hours on the same day would be an "ultra" workout.

Five hours.

I'll see if I can work up to that over the summer (heck, or earlier, if it just happens).

ranger

[ranger]

Way above 80 kg

Hardly.

Two weeks later, I weighed in at WIRC 2006 at 73 kg./162 lbs. and rowed with a lightweight stamp.

I did the 6:29.7 at high drag, without preparing for it, just on the basis of low rate rowing.

The closest thing I did to a sharpening workout was 6 x 2K at 20 spm, 21 spm, 22 spm, 23 spm, 24 spm, and 25 spm.

1:52, 1:50, 1:48, 1:46, 1:44, 1:42

A solid AT workout.

I pulled the 2K, 1:37.4 @ 32 spm (12 SPI)

So, it was probably an AT 2K.

I didn't do any TR and AN training.

ranger

[lancs]

It will indeed predict a 6:16 2k.

Happy to hear you agree.

So why don't we leave it there?

We won't leave it there because I don't want anyone thinking you can even pull a 10k at 1:48 pace, because you can't.

I'd hate to think that anyone unfamiliar with your pathology thinks you're even a sub-6:30 rower any more, because you're not.

That's why we won't leave it there. Get it?

[JimR]

The other day, my hour OTBike at 165 bpm was a mistake, especially for a cross-training routine.

I felt the effects the next day. I couldn't row. My legs were tired.

Stop the presses ... what happened to mr. "may training never makes me stale"??? You recently said you never miss a day except when life gets in the way ... and here is information that refutes that (surprise)!

What day did this unprecendented event happen?!

JimR

[Steve G]

The other day, my hour OTBike at 165 bpm was a mistake, especially for a cross-training routine.

I felt the effects the next day. I couldn't row. My legs were tired.

Stop the presses ... what happened to mr. "may training never makes me stale"??? You recently said you never miss a day except when life gets in the way ... and here is information that refutes that (surprise)!

What day did this unprecendented event happen?!

JimR

It happened before many pages ago !
Why not stop the "biking" and just do 40K on the erg?
You have said for years you will increase your metres to a marathon a day!

Steve

[hjs]

Way above 80 kg

Hardly.

Two weeks later, I weighed in at WIRC 2006 at 73 kg./162 lbs. and rowed with a lightweight stamp.

ranger

And rowed 30 seconds plus slower...................

[mikvan52]

I just read the replies now (with ranger offal safely on "foe")...
What gets me most is that this is a thread where, exclusively, aging men respond to an internet troll.

I used to think that, being a lightweight and less than two years younger, I would eventually face Cureton at Crash-B or the HOCR. Now, I no longer think this to be at all probable.

What you see before your eyes and under your fingers is ranger's only domain. It is what he lives for. He hates to compete, He is a cyber-entity, nothing else.
There are no facts and figures. No regattas to speak of. No peak efforts. Just twisted history from a slowly dimming past.

On our side, everything, every thought, every analysis, has already been stated many times. We are consequently, only redundant.
C2 should just archive this thread and lock it.

[Steve G]

I just read the replies now (with ranger offal safely on "foe")...
What gets me most is that this is a thread where, exclusively, aging men respond to an internet troll.

I used to think that, being a lightweight and less than two years younger, I would eventually face Cureton at Crash-B or the HOCR. Now, I no longer think this to be at all probable.

What you see before your eyes and under your fingers is ranger's only domain. It is what he lives for. He hates to compete, He is a cyber-entity, nothing else.
There are no facts and figures. No regattas to speak of. No peak efforts. Just twisted history from a slowly dimming past.

On our side, everything, every thought, every analysis, has already been stated many times. We are consequently, only redundant.
C2 should just archive this thread and lock it.

Very true Mike, but you were one of the main contributors!
Leave the thread open, it's all in fun, we know he wont post any results, workouts etc!

Steve

[ranger]

We won't leave it there

Glad to know we are agreed to leave it there.

With another month or so of steady state distance training, a FM @ 155 bpm won't be hard for me at all.

I'll now pull (at least) 1:48 at 155 bpm.

12 SPI

23 spm

4-to-1 ratio

119 df.

That will put all the artificially manufactured, insubstantial controversy here to rest and I can just finish my race preparation and pull 6:16.

ranger

[ranger]

C'mon Rich cut to the chase show us a shot of the PM4 of some of your training sessions

That's exactly the intention.

The distance events are just 2K training.

The first screen shot I'll post of my training is a FM @ 1:48, HR steady at 155 bpm.

Then, I'll work my way down through HM, 60min, 10K, 30min, 6K, and 5K.

ranger

[hjs]

Although I won't make it a habit but I will make dangy's day..............


Yesterday Matthias Auer broke Mike C record. It is now 6.17.4, it was rowed at the E-Cup in Frankfurt-Fechenheim. Matthias just turned 40 a week afer crash, so he could not do it there.
Last year he also broke the 30/40 marathon record.
He is a otw rower/erger who almost does no speedwork, he is a ferm believer is long medium fast work.
He also doesn't do low rate work.



Very well done Matthias, congrats!

[ranger]

Although I won't make it a habit but I will make dangy's day..............


Yesterday Matthias Auer broke Mike C record. It is now 6.17.4, it was rowed at the E-Cup in Frankfurt-Fechenheim. Matthias just turned 40 a week afer crash, so he could not do it there.
Last year he also broke the 30/40 marathon record.
He is a otw rower/erger who almost does no speedwork, he is a ferm believer is long medium fast work.
He also doesn't do low rate work.



Very well done Matthias, congrats!

Great to hear, although, as you know, I always wish Mike C. well.

He has been so good to me, I always feel obligated to return the favor.



Many congrats to Matthias.

Of course, like Roy's, Mike C.'s record has always been soft, too.



That's a _fact_.

ranger

[snowleopard]

Roy's record has always been soft

So soft you couldn't break it. What are you, a marshmallow or a powderpuff?