Pete Plan Thread

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by bambam » February 11th, 2019, 12:49 pm

Hi All,

Pretty sure this is my first post so i'll bore you all with some intro. apologies in advance for the length of this post!

Currently: 35, 105kg, 185cm. PB's - 2k:

Generally pretty active, and do other sports - not just rowing. Used to row when i went to the gym, but bought the bullet a year or so ago and bought a model D so i could put a little more time into exercise in general.

Started off just rowing when i felt like it, about 2-3 times a week, with a mix of 5k's, 2k's, pyramids, and short ~30:30 intervals, x 4 with 3 mins in between. Eventually got a little bored of this and wanted to reduce my waistline, and get my 5k under 20 mins. So i cut down on carbs slightly, and did my own version of the PP 5K plan which was 3 sessions a week with 1 distance and 2 intervals. Got good results up until i got ill, had to take a week or so out, so had to go back a bit, then kept missing goals, so ended up fading out. 5k time went from 22:05, down to 20:18, waistline was basically unchanged, but had put on ~3-5Kg.

Took a few months off, mainly due to life in general, also the weather was nice, so was riding my bike rather than rowing, realised that aiming for an increase in athletic performance wasn't helping my waistline, but was getting me a lot fitter so changed tactic - went back to beginning and started the BPP.

So far have got to week 14, but then injured my back (just before xmas), after this healed i went back a week and carried on (based on a me doing a 10k at a semi comfortable pace) but then was away for xmas and new year, went back and re-did the same week then got ill, went back and did that same damn week again and we're now at the present day - Today is probably the first time i feel like i'm able to row properly again so going to head back an additional few weeks and go from there to keep my motivation! Currently have improved my 10k time massively, and not done any of the shorter distances recently

There's still no change to the waistline (maybe tiny amount but barely noticeable) - but weight has gone up another ~5kg. Please note though i'm not fussed about my weight, but i am trying to reduce waistline, i appreciate these aren't always linked!!

I am clear that more effort is required on the diet front - so in the new year i started being much more careful on portion size, and have tried to keep things balanced and healthy. Also did dry January (with no effect).

Has anyone else experienced this kind of plateau? or frustration in having to repeat weeks without seeing much improvement?


Sorry for the length again - and if you got this far well done!!

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by bambam » February 11th, 2019, 3:05 pm

Should have added, also took a week at around week 10 to re train myself.

Had been doing the SS rows at a stroke rate of 16-18, do to try and get more cardio benefit upped this to 21-24.

Worked out great and since then the longer stuff was seeming easier. Although must as another add on, the anaerobic hiit intervals have always been easier for me than long distance, slow pace stuff.

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by Rod » February 11th, 2019, 5:47 pm

bambam wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 3:05 pm
Should have added, also took a week at around week 10 to re train myself.
If by that you mean you've had the damper on a setting of 10 then have a look at this (having it on 10 is a very bad idea);
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9yk4lL ... 2Zd-0NX_tM
67 year old, 72 kilo (159lbs), 5'8''/174cm (always the shortest on the podium!) male. Based just south of London.
Best rows as an over 60. One Hour.....16011 metres. 30 mins.....8215 metres. 100k 7hrs 14 mins.

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by bambam » February 11th, 2019, 5:57 pm

Rod wrote:
February 11th, 2019, 5:47 pm
If by that you mean you've had the damper on a setting of 10 then have a look at this (having it on 10 is a very bad idea)
Thanks for the reply Rod, but no, damper setting has been between 5-6 the whole time, works out to a drag factor of about 120-130.

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by mitchel674 » February 12th, 2019, 8:02 am

BPP week 5. 7000m done at 2:18. I've gone back to using my HR monitor and kept my rate between 140-145 for this session.
59yo male, 6ft, 153lbs

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by CaptSteve » February 14th, 2019, 2:00 pm

Hi Bambam,

Good luck in breaking the plateau, I can imagine it must be tough repeating the weeks over and again. I like the consistency of a training plan to give me pieces to aim for and achieve, I shall see how it goes from here on in. It looks like you were getting quite a good 5k time there.

BPP 3.1 - 06/2/2019 - 6000m - Set out to do a steady pace around 2:08 - practice for the valentines challenge.
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BPP 3.2 - 07/2/2019 - 2 x 2k r4' - Struggled to keep pace on the 2nd piece, but overall an ok average.
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BPP 3.3 - 09/2/2019 - 6000m - Set out to match the pace I did on the earlier 6k.
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Additional hour for the Valentines challenge. I set myself the challenge to do the Valentines Challenge of 14k in a single hour. Was chuffed when I managed it. 11/2/2019
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M 33 187cm 96kg
2k 7:58 -- 5k 20:21 -- 6k 25:09 -- 10k 42:15 -- 30' 7299m -- 60' 14134m

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by RayOfSunshine » February 17th, 2019, 7:18 pm

After a few weeks off to compete in my first rowing race then do a HM TT, I'm back on the BPP for the SkiErg. Since it had been a few weeks, I re-did the 5500m.

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by Rowlers » February 18th, 2019, 6:56 am

Yes, I have finished the BPP last week! Really happy with the milestone. I feel way more fit than before the plan and went down from 78kg to 75kg. At the start of the plan I managed to row 2000m in 8:32.1. Last week I tried again and I managed to do it in 7:19.4. Pretty good progress.

The plan is now to switch to the Full Pete Plan. This plan consists out of 6 rows a week but for me I can only do 3 rows a week. I will spread out the 3 week schedule over 6 weeks. Does anybody do the same? Would that be a good idea or are there any major downsides to this?


TT - 2000m

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BPP 24.2 - 5x1500m / 3 min rest

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BPP 24.3 - 30min

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Roel, 32 yrs old, 176cm / 75kg (5' 9" / 165 lbs)

Started BPP 06/08/2018 @78kg and Finished 09/02/2019 @75kg.

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by SowfLondonRower » February 18th, 2019, 7:09 am

Congrats Roel! Great work. Really good pacing on that 2k as well.
Rob, 26, 6'2", South London, new to rowing.

Started BPP 16/07/2018 @104kg. Finished 18/01/2019 @86kg.

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by RayOfSunshine » February 18th, 2019, 1:41 pm

Congrats on finishing and the 2k!! Excellent pacing.
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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by mdpfirrman » February 18th, 2019, 6:01 pm

Roel, congrats! Nice progress. If you're going to do the full PP, I'd try to do five days a week if you can. If not, then do the two hard interval workouts and one longer, slower piece. It wouldn't be the true PP, because the full PP is made to add "stress", lots of it, to ready you for a race.

That 10K was very nice. Do what you can fit in. If it's not the true PP, that's OK, better than nothing, that's for sure!

I'm out with my back again, sadly. I'm actually working hard, just all on the Air Dyne Pro. I'm actually doing the 5K PP, essentially, but on the Air Bike. Hope to be back to rowing in a month or two. Nothing that painful, but every time I try to row, it reaggravates the back. Longest I've been away from rowing in five years. I'm sure I'll be back eventually.

Just wanted to come on and congratulate you Roel!
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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by mitchel674 » February 19th, 2019, 10:53 am

Week 6 BPP. Use my heart rate monitor on this 7500m row in an effort to keep my HR between 130-140. This resulted in a 2:19 pace for the piece. This really got me thinking about my pace for my long steady state rows this past year. I'm wondering if my typical 2:15 pace has just been a bit too fast.

5000m done today at the gym at 2:14 as a bit of a warm up before my weight training.

Not really sure how to pace my upcoming 3 x 2000m, r4 for the BPP this week.
59yo male, 6ft, 153lbs

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by Dangerscouse » February 19th, 2019, 11:23 am

mitchel674 wrote:
February 19th, 2019, 10:53 am
Week 6 BPP. Use my heart rate monitor on this 7500m row in an effort to keep my HR between 130-140. This resulted in a 2:19 pace for the piece. This really got me thinking about my pace for my long steady state rows this past year. I'm wondering if my typical 2:15 pace has just been a bit too fast.

5000m done today at the gym at 2:14 as a bit of a warm up before my weight training.

Not really sure how to pace my upcoming 3 x 2000m, r4 for the BPP this week.
It's very easily done without a HR monitor. I think 2:15 probably is too fast as I find I usually go about 4 or 5 secs too fast with no HR monitor.

I'd do the 3 x 2000m at 2k + 4/5 to start with and go from there
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by Rowlers » February 19th, 2019, 11:46 am

SowfLondonRower wrote:
February 18th, 2019, 7:09 am
Congrats Roel! Great work. Really good pacing on that 2k as well.
RayOfSunshine wrote:
February 18th, 2019, 1:41 pm
Congrats on finishing and the 2k!! Excellent pacing.
Thanks guys!
mdpfirrman wrote:
February 18th, 2019, 6:01 pm
Roel, congrats! Nice progress. If you're going to do the full PP, I'd try to do five days a week if you can. If not, then do the two hard interval workouts and one longer, slower piece. It wouldn't be the true PP, because the full PP is made to add "stress", lots of it, to ready you for a race.

That 10K was very nice. Do what you can fit in. If it's not the true PP, that's OK, better than nothing, that's for sure!

I'm out with my back again, sadly. I'm actually working hard, just all on the Air Dyne Pro. I'm actually doing the 5K PP, essentially, but on the Air Bike. Hope to be back to rowing in a month or two. Nothing that painful, but every time I try to row, it reaggravates the back. Longest I've been away from rowing in five years. I'm sure I'll be back eventually.

Just wanted to come on and congratulate you Roel!
Thanks a lot Mike! You're support was and is highly appreciated during the past months. Three times a week is pretty much all I can fit in. I will give it a second thought but might just give it a try for 6 weeks and see how it goes. Good luck with the back and I hope it will get better soon!
Roel, 32 yrs old, 176cm / 75kg (5' 9" / 165 lbs)

Started BPP 06/08/2018 @78kg and Finished 09/02/2019 @75kg.

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Re: Pete Plan Thread

Post by RayOfSunshine » February 19th, 2019, 3:39 pm

SkiErg BPP 2.2 4x750m 2r

Target pace < 2:00

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Really enjoying this new torture toy now.
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