Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by Balkan boy » March 26th, 2016, 2:26 am

Marius Pudzianowski is/was very special specimen even among that niche.
He was always my favorite because of his athleticism. I remember seeing him do a full split.

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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by hjs » March 26th, 2016, 5:08 am

PowerRower wrote:
Shawn Baker wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=58p6_OpCcRs

This was former world strongest man champ Marius Pudzianowski in a 500m comp against a supposed Olympic silver medalist (I believe winning time was 1:18)
People have no idea what it takes to pull a 1:11.9, lol much less a 1:10.5. Muscles wont get you there, being strong isnt enough. There are so many factors. There is a level of athleticism required which is why the muscle bound have a hard time with it.. mariusz was known as the BEST conditioned strongman on the pro circuit and a 1:18 at his size isnt even respectable. Mental toughness is a huge factor. It takes a lotof things along with training. I am also starting to find that the 1k is just as tough although 1:10.5 is more impressive than 2:39.6 in my opinion. The 500m will never be broken.
What me always strikes is the ignorance when people try a 500. For fast guys its say 75 seconds. If they should do a lifting test for 75 seconds, would they off at 95% plus effort? Still you always see those guys end up crawling at the finish. In every sport lasting 60/120 seconds, the people who can keep their speed win. No wr is ever set with a fly and die. Good pacing is a big part of a succesfull race.

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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by Shawn Baker » March 26th, 2016, 10:51 pm

So, was hoping for decent 100m tonight

Did 1k easy warmup

Did a few starts then about 6 100m rows

Was having real trouble staying on seat fell off several time at 6th stroke for some reason, saw a few 1:05s and lots of 1:06s but then fell off seat, first pulls were not very good only about 1:44- best tonight was only 13.9 secs all the rest were 14.0- so disappointed

Next some deadlifting- went up too 500lbs for a beltless double overhand single

Then did 5 sets of speed deadlift triples with 315lbs

Then did 4 low pulls (6 strokes- best only 1201 watts -1:06)

Then did 3 more sets of speed deadlifts @ 315lbs

Then tried to get lowest pull on first rep x 4- got down to 1:36

Then did 2 more sets of speed deads (again trips with 315lbs)

Then did some 3 stroke starts x 8 with best rep getting to 1210 watts on 3rd stroke (1:06)

I could not pull any harder and was completely done- this was a max intensity one tonight, absolutely done!!
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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by Shawn Baker » March 26th, 2016, 11:40 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z18r2CY27yw

He's got a few other videos and I'm impressed with his ability to hit 1:30 on first stroke and that he only takes 12 strokes to complete the 100m

No clue who this person is other than I think he's Australian - but 13.3 100m row, only know that Ross Love has same PR and I believe Rob Smith reportedly went 13.2 (I think)
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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by PowerRower » March 26th, 2016, 11:50 pm

Shawn Baker wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z18r2CY27yw

He's got a few other videos and I'm impressed with his ability to hit 1:30 on first stroke and that he only takes 12 strokes to complete the 100m

No clue who this person is other than I think he's Australian - but 13.3 100m row, only know that Ross Love has same PR and I believe Rob Smith reportedly went 13.2 (I think)
Shawn I dont believe Rob has ever gone that fast... I have several conversations with him about it and he definitely never mentioned that. I have been faster than Rob through every single distance to my knowledge. 100, 300 and 500.

I find something interesting about this guy's 100m though... says 1:06.8 avg at 13.3 seconds while my PB is a 1:06.5 avg at 13.3 seconds. I guess I would have been faster to the hundredth? Crazy...
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Post by Balkan boy » March 27th, 2016, 2:53 am

Shawn,
I had trouble staying on the seat for maximal 100m at high rates.
What worked was oiling the rail and the seat rollers, but more importantly, wearing underpants of grippier material. Something like old cotton gripped better then silky synthetics. A tacky rubber mat between you and the seat may help.

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Post by Shawn Baker » March 27th, 2016, 9:10 am

http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/ ... 97&p=31417

Ross, this is a thread where it is suggested Rob hit a 13.2 - not sure if it was ever confirmed, also I think Dirk Moller may have done a 13.3 as well

What I still can't understand is how the mystery guy can get through that 100m that fast in only 12 strokes as everyone else seems to need 15-16- I'm guessing he's tremendously strong
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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by PowerRower » March 27th, 2016, 1:24 pm

Shawn Baker wrote:http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/ ... 97&p=31417

Ross, this is a thread where it is suggested Rob hit a 13.2 - not sure if it was ever confirmed, also I think Dirk Moller may have done a 13.3 as well

What I still can't understand is how the mystery guy can get through that 100m that fast in only 12 strokes as everyone else seems to need 15-16- I'm guessing he's tremendously strong
He would have to be slow rate and strong... right?
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Post by PowerRower » March 27th, 2016, 1:28 pm

Looking back at mine I pulled 14/15 strokes.. with a faster avg. Something doesnt add up.
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Post by Shawn Baker » March 27th, 2016, 1:39 pm

Maybe he's 7 foot tall, super strong and "shoots lighting bolts from his arse" like William Wallace :D
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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by PowerRower » March 27th, 2016, 1:44 pm

Shawn Baker wrote:Maybe he's 7 foot tall, super strong and "shoots lighting bolts from his arse" like William Wallace :D
Lol must be!
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Post by markinnb » March 27th, 2016, 8:55 pm

PowerRower wrote:
Shawn Baker wrote:Maybe he's 7 foot tall, super strong and "shoots lighting bolts from his arse" like William Wallace :D
Lol must be!
I watched a few of this person's videos : is there any that actually show a real life person perform the rowing? or is always just a vid of the numbers on the pm. the guy must not know how to run a video camera as in almost every other video I have ever seen, the rower was actually shown performing the activity

I'd like to see his form on these things and it's a bit interesting to discover that he doesn't bother to show himself in his vids.
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Post by mdpfirrman » March 28th, 2016, 9:16 am

Shawn Baker wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=58p6_OpCcRs

This was former worlds strongest man champ Marius Pudzianowski in a 500m comp against a supposed Olympic silver medalist (I believe winning time was 1:18)
You would think they could have found a better rower to match up against him. That guy was a Silver medalist lightweight at 150lbs or so (68kg). Not exactly apples to apples on an erg. at 68kg, that rower would probably crush him on the water. Would be a much more fair comparison doing a 500m race with a larger heavyweight rower.
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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by Shawn Baker » March 29th, 2016, 11:48 am

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Was looking to get 500m r 20 at 1:30- got close- maybe next time

This was early am fasted, max drag and feet strapped in

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Re: Sprints and Stuff- training/questions 1k and below

Post by markinnb » March 29th, 2016, 2:47 pm

mdpfirrman wrote: You would think they could have found a better rower to match up against him. That guy was a Silver medalist lightweight at 150lbs or so (68kg). Not exactly apples to apples on an erg. at 68kg, that rower would probably crush him on the water. Would be a much more fair comparison doing a 500m race with a larger heavyweight rower.
I think that the lightweight silver <medal> champion was used to highlight how good a small-ish person can actually be- if they are well trained and in good condition, rowing in proper form or semi-proper form.
Marius had a 1:18 while buddy was 1:23 or so.
Marius was in his 30's in 2010 so his time of 1:18 would be about 5th best in 2010 and about 5th so far , in 2016. This would be in the heavyweights of course
Paweł Rańda's (30's as well ) time of 1;23 would put him in 2nd position in 2010 and maybe 1st or 2nd thus far in 2016 in the lightweight.
Pawel held his own if not more.

People may have been expecting Marius to crush Pawel, in terms of time.
Pawel's time and performance highlighted the fact that a person doesn't have to be enormous in order to put in a good time. That technique and form matter and sometimes can outperform brute force.
The comp also highlighted Marius abilities. He isn't a rower. He didn't put anywhere near the time/distance on the erg as Pawel.
He did have decent form , apart from a distinct hand position . He wasn't sloppy. He didn't just use brute force. Marius certainly is something else .
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