What Training Have You Done Today?

[flatbread]

Folks, John rode Paris-Roubaix as a pro.

Six liter athlete in his prime. Muscular build -- nor a skinny cyclist at all.

As soon as he perfects his erg technique he'll be at Worlds if he decides to do that.

[Dangerscouse]

As soon as he perfects his erg technique he'll be at Worlds if he decides to do that.

I wouldn't be surprised by that. Anyone who can suffer like a pro cyclist can do day after day, and still come back for more is perfectly suited to erging.

I've got a strong suspicion that applies to you, too

[flatbread]

Morning -- upper body routine

Voice -- more on Handel and Bach. Lesson Friday then a minor procedure on my tongue next week. So four days to finish learning the Bach.

Erg -- 80 minutes at 2:06, r22 avg. 75 min at 2:05 then cool down.

[Ruin Christmas]

Yesterday, lightning struck the clothesline in our backyard, knocking the internet out. However despite this calamity, I have bravely tethered with my phone in order to post my workout here:

Lift (high bar squat, bench, snatch grip DL)
7k UT2
6k UT1
3k AT
1200m TR
800m TR
4k UT2

[milansanremo]

Warmed up...felt tired from stacking wood all afternoon and was going to take the day off.
Felt guilty and warmed up again... decided to just do a 5K
Felt a lot better and at 4000m saw I might get a PR if I started rowing..haha. Ended up 3rd in my age group for the season...lol


https://log.concept2.com/rankings/2026/ ... 4&weight=L

Well done John, and you're really close to 1st

Thanks my Friend!
We both know things are going "get a lot hotter in the *** DELETE - SPAM ***".. but for me it was a good effort for not really going for it...that is until I decided "I wanted to meet the devil with 1k to go"...lol

[milansanremo]

Folks, John rode Paris-Roubaix as a pro.

Six liter athlete in his prime. Muscular build -- nor a skinny cyclist at all.

As soon as he perfects his erg technique he'll be at Worlds if he decides to do that.

Well, Before I started on the C2 I thought that your words may have meant something. I quickly discovered humility.. when I looked at my times and others my age.
My conclusion is "it doesn't matter if you're Pogacar".. you're not going to jump on a C2 and think you're going to start kicking everyone's ass.
I am convinced now that the transition to becoming a world class rower is significantly more technical than possibly,,"any other endurance sport".
There are MANY unseen pieces to this puzzle and it's a tedious process to find the correct pieces that fit.... So many variables and that's one of the reasons I may never ride a bike "hard" that is, again.

[milansanremo]

As soon as he perfects his erg technique he'll be at Worlds if he decides to do that.

I wouldn't be surprised by that. Anyone who can suffer like a pro cyclist can do day after day, and still come back for more is perfectly suited to erging.

I've got a strong suspicion that applies to you, too

It's interesting that you say that.
What I find is the remarkable similarity to the critical situation in a professional cycling race where you know that "the moment is at hand" and you better be prepared to hallucinate for a bit if you want to make the,"final break".
That moment of being able to go "super deep and anaerobic" is quite similar. Just maybe, already knowing how that feels "the moment where most people quit" could be an advantage.
That said, I think world class rowers may be "tougher".
Murray used to do multiple repeats of sub 6 2K,'s in a session.(Supposedly). Even for him, I guarantee you that the Pain Doctor was dishing it out to the max after 1 or 2 of them.

[Dangerscouse]

Murray used to do multiple repeats of sub 6 2K,'s in a session.(Supposedly). Even for him, I guarantee you that the Pain Doctor was dishing it out to the max after 1 or 2 of them.

I have seen a screenshot of Hamish Bond's that was three sub 6 repeats, on four mins rest IIRC, so it is true.

[alex9026]

23:20.0 7,000 1:40.0 350 1504 26
3:21.4 1,000 1:40.7 343 1479 26
3:20.9 1,000 1:40.4 345 1488 27
3:20.8 1,000 1:40.4 346 1490 26
3:20.7 1,000 1:40.3 346 1492 26
3:19.7 1,000 1:39.8 352 1509 26
3:18.7 1,000 1:39.3 357 1528 27
3:17.8 1,000 1:38.9 362 1545 28

7x1k/3:00. Followed by 10kr20 at 2:00. Weighed in at 88.0kg, which I haven't seen in a few years. I've not been actively trying to lose weight, I feel most of us find a "natural" bodyweight if not actively trying to push it one way or the other. Whether it's detrimental or beneficial for any 2k aspirations only time will tell.

[alex9026]

I have seen a screenshot of Hamish Bond's that was three sub 6 repeats, on four mins rest IIRC, so it is true.

This is quite incredible...

[flatbread]

Folks, John rode Paris-Roubaix as a pro.

Six liter athlete in his prime. Muscular build -- nor a skinny cyclist at all.

As soon as he perfects his erg technique he'll be at Worlds if he decides to do that.

My conclusion is "it doesn't matter if you're Pogacar".. you're not going to jump on a C2 and think you're going to start kicking everyone's ass.

If you have not already, find a coach to do video analysis of your stroke and force curve analysis using an app.

The erg is more technical than pedaling, but with the right feedback and drills one can get it to a reasonable spot in not a lot of time.

The boat is a whole other matter. I was able to get some water time, about 90 minutes from here at a basic leatn to row, but there's no adult club here in Clemson and no regular coaching. I will always be an erger.

I think with the right eyes helping you, you'll get the erg sorted out. Then it's just a matter of meters and peripheral adaptations.

[Sakly]

Internal team Oarsome challenge today - with already cooked legs, but no other slot available until end of month
It's 6x500 2r rate capped at 24.
Had a single sighter during gym warmup yesterday, got a 1:35.3, but I was aware of that it will not happen today

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	❤️
9:42.3	3,000	1:37.0	383	1617	24	171
1:36.6	500	1:36.6	388	1636	24	166
1:36.8	500	1:36.8	386	1628	24	170
1:37.2	500	1:37.2	381	1611	24	172
1:37.2	500	1:37.2	381	1611	24	173
1:37.2	500	1:37.2	381	1611	24	173
1:37.3	500	1:37.3	380	1607	24	175

Gave it all in every interval, no strategy. Satisfied.