Exactly what I feel! My default is more 18 for steady and increasing the rate comes with a faster pace and a too hard session to do it regularly.
What Training Have You Done Today?
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Morning lower body lift. Afternoon steady.
1:05:03.1 15,673 2:04.5 181 923 20
10:00.0 2,429 2:03.5 186 939 21
20:00.0 2,447 2:02.5 190 953 22
30:00.0 2,441 2:02.9 189 948 22
40:00.0 2,448 2:02.5 190 954 22
50:00.0 2,444 2:02.7 189 951 22
1:00:00.0 2,438 2:03.0 188 946 23
1:05:03.0 1,028 2:27.3 109 676 8
1:05:03.1 15,673 2:04.5 181 923 20
10:00.0 2,429 2:03.5 186 939 21
20:00.0 2,447 2:02.5 190 953 22
30:00.0 2,441 2:02.9 189 948 22
40:00.0 2,448 2:02.5 190 954 22
50:00.0 2,444 2:02.7 189 951 22
1:00:00.0 2,438 2:03.0 188 946 23
1:05:03.0 1,028 2:27.3 109 676 8
58, 1m84, 81kg
RHR 40, MHR 160
10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m (as a lightweight)
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1159735
RHR 40, MHR 160
10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m (as a lightweight)
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1159735
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
I also default to a fairly tight range of pace for a stroke rate, which is generally a good thing, but it can be a curse occasionally.alex9026 wrote: ↑May 31st, 2025, 4:23 pmR20 seems to have been a default rating for me since I first sat on my Erg eighteen months ago (can't believe I'm writing that!). I probably do too much of it though so I'm making an effort to increase it, be it at the end of these longer pieces and extending the duration of the higher rate, or incorporating some rate ladders when the summer returns and I can appreciate the little rest periods. Sam Blythe speaks highly of them and he did okay on the Erg... I do find it hard to rate higher and not increase the pace, though.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑May 31st, 2025, 6:22 amGreat HM Alex. Are you more comfortable at r20 than r22-24?
I might starting doing rate ladders, as they're something I don't ever do
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
1:25:11.8 21,097 2:01.1 197 977 20 133
12:08.0 3,000 2:01.3 196 974 21 121
12:07.9 6,000 2:01.3 196 974 20 127
12:07.2 9,000 2:01.2 197 976 20 131
12:06.3 12,000 2:01.0 197 979 20 134
12:06.3 15,000 2:01.0 197 979 20 139
12:05.6 18,000 2:00.9 198 981 20 140
12:07.0 21,000 2:01.1 197 977 20 140
0:23.7 21,097 2:02.1 192 960 20 139
Unfinished business from yesterday. I reined it in a bit to see if that would help. Either it did, it was a better day, or possibly both.
12:08.0 3,000 2:01.3 196 974 21 121
12:07.9 6,000 2:01.3 196 974 20 127
12:07.2 9,000 2:01.2 197 976 20 131
12:06.3 12,000 2:01.0 197 979 20 134
12:06.3 15,000 2:01.0 197 979 20 139
12:05.6 18,000 2:00.9 198 981 20 140
12:07.0 21,000 2:01.1 197 977 20 140
0:23.7 21,097 2:02.1 192 960 20 139
Unfinished business from yesterday. I reined it in a bit to see if that would help. Either it did, it was a better day, or possibly both.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
"You reap what you row"
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Taking advantage of Mrs Alex being away the weekend and me having some time off work to get another longer session in.
8/7/5/4 on 3:00 recovery at r18, ave a smidge under 1:58 throughout. Darn working for a living, it's amazing how much better we recover without it... This marathon might still happen yet
On another note, I hope it's just me fearing the worst given my history of them, but pretty sure I'm dealing with another hernia. (I say the worst, it's nothing on the grand scale of things, but weighing up what my symptoms are it is...) Got a Dr's appointment booked for mid June to check it out and hopefully put my mind at ease. No issues on the Erg, but can't press a weight without it straining.
8/7/5/4 on 3:00 recovery at r18, ave a smidge under 1:58 throughout. Darn working for a living, it's amazing how much better we recover without it... This marathon might still happen yet

On another note, I hope it's just me fearing the worst given my history of them, but pretty sure I'm dealing with another hernia. (I say the worst, it's nothing on the grand scale of things, but weighing up what my symptoms are it is...) Got a Dr's appointment booked for mid June to check it out and hopefully put my mind at ease. No issues on the Erg, but can't press a weight without it straining.
34 6'2 88kg
1:00 368m
500m 1:24.4
4:00 1282m
2k 6:24
5k 17:27
6k 20:57
1:00 368m
500m 1:24.4
4:00 1282m
2k 6:24
5k 17:27
6k 20:57
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Feel you being in the hospital with a diverticulitis right nowalex9026 wrote: ↑June 1st, 2025, 6:05 amOn another note, I hope it's just me fearing the worst given my history of them, but pretty sure I'm dealing with another hernia. (I say the worst, it's nothing on the grand scale of things, but weighing up what my symptoms are it is...) Got a Dr's appointment booked for mid June to check it out and hopefully put my mind at ease. No issues on the Erg, but can't press a weight without it straining.

Good luck with your appointment and result hopefully shows some less serious stuff.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Fingers crossed it's good news.alex9026 wrote: ↑June 1st, 2025, 6:05 amOn another note, I hope it's just me fearing the worst given my history of them, but pretty sure I'm dealing with another hernia. (I say the worst, it's nothing on the grand scale of things, but weighing up what my symptoms are it is...) Got a Dr's appointment booked for mid June to check it out and hopefully put my mind at ease. No issues on the Erg, but can't press a weight without it straining.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
"You reap what you row"
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Really sorry to read this Alex. I lived with mine for over a year without it affecting me or my training at all...but then I got a cough and had to get it sorted ASAP. I'd suggest you'll soon know if you cough....
Best of luck.
Mike - 67 HWT 183


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Thanks gents. Mike, if I can live with it and get a good summer behind me and a shot at the Indoors in December I'll take that. A few weeks off after that I can live with. Funnily enough, my old man just had one repaired. He noticed his after a heavy coughing fit, so here's hoping I stay healthy! Tried stretching my lower back out earlier and could feel the strain, then.
Hope you're on the mend Sascha.
34 6'2 88kg
1:00 368m
500m 1:24.4
4:00 1282m
2k 6:24
5k 17:27
6k 20:57
1:00 368m
500m 1:24.4
4:00 1282m
2k 6:24
5k 17:27
6k 20:57
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Just had my first meal after exactly 3 full days of fasting, except filtered broth. I assumed it will be very hard to not eat anything, but it seems my body is well fat adapted and could easily switch to internal energy reserves. No symptoms whatsoever, not even hunger after I overcame the first hunger episode on the usual eating time the first day. To be honest, even today's meal I wouldn't have needed and could go on with fasting, but of course wanted to try if symptoms of the gut stay away when I restart eating.
Now, after an hour, I feel my gut is working on the food, even not being much (compared to my usual meals). But it's ok and no pain at all today. If all goes well, I will leave the hospital tomorrow and get back to my daughter, as my wife is on vacation in Greece

Good timing for such stuff, but my brother in law was giving support here

Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Minor tongue procedure on Tues, so I'll be taking most of this next week off.
10k check today. Started UT1 and built up.
39:12.0 10,000 1:57.6 215 1040 25
7:52.9 2,000 1:58.2 212 1028 24
7:53.3 4,000 1:58.3 211 1027 24
7:51.4 6,000 1:57.8 214 1035 25
7:49.4 8,000 1:57.3 217 1045 26
7:45.1 10,000 1:56.2 223 1066 27
10k check today. Started UT1 and built up.
39:12.0 10,000 1:57.6 215 1040 25
7:52.9 2,000 1:58.2 212 1028 24
7:53.3 4,000 1:58.3 211 1027 24
7:51.4 6,000 1:57.8 214 1035 25
7:49.4 8,000 1:57.3 217 1045 26
7:45.1 10,000 1:56.2 223 1066 27
58, 1m84, 81kg
RHR 40, MHR 160
10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m (as a lightweight)
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1159735
RHR 40, MHR 160
10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m (as a lightweight)
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1159735
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Good luck with your procedure... Robertflatbread wrote: ↑June 1st, 2025, 3:59 pmMinor tongue procedure on Tues, so I'll be taking most of this next week off.
10k check today. Started UT1 and built up.
39:12.0 10,000 1:57.6 215 1040 25
7:52.9 2,000 1:58.2 212 1028 24
7:53.3 4,000 1:58.3 211 1027 24
7:51.4 6,000 1:57.8 214 1035 25
7:49.4 8,000 1:57.3 217 1045 26
7:45.1 10,000 1:56.2 223 1066 27
Thanks for just dangling a "carrot" in front of me
On 4/28 I did a 1:59.5...,best so far.
I'm going to see how I feel today after a decent warmup.
No doubt 1:57.5 is a "Long Shot" without a doubt
John
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I hope that your diverticulitis, tongue, and hernias feel better soon respectively.
saturday
Lift
7k' UT2
had to attend two dance recitals, but i guess my troubles pale in comparison
Sunday
lift
4k UT2
7k UT1
3.5k AT
1800m TR
5k UT2
saturday
Lift
7k' UT2
had to attend two dance recitals, but i guess my troubles pale in comparison
Sunday
lift
4k UT2
7k UT1
3.5k AT
1800m TR
5k UT2
Burn Lawson, 45M, Mississippi, USA, 170 cm, 85 kg
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Thanks J. I hope I can do 1:53 r25 in Oct or so. My 60min was r24, so I'm guessing that's my true threshold rate.milansanremo wrote: ↑June 1st, 2025, 6:28 pmGood luck with your procedure... Robertflatbread wrote: ↑June 1st, 2025, 3:59 pmMinor tongue procedure on Tues, so I'll be taking most of this next week off.
10k check today. Started UT1 and built up.
39:12.0 10,000 1:57.6 215 1040 25
7:52.9 2,000 1:58.2 212 1028 24
7:53.3 4,000 1:58.3 211 1027 24
7:51.4 6,000 1:57.8 214 1035 25
7:49.4 8,000 1:57.3 217 1045 26
7:45.1 10,000 1:56.2 223 1066 27
Thanks for just dangling a "carrot" in front of me
On 4/28 I did a 1:59.5...,best so far.
I'm going to see how I feel today after a decent warmup.
No doubt 1:57.5 is a "Long Shot" without a doubt
John
I used slides today -- I always train on them and use them for 5k on up.
58, 1m84, 81kg
RHR 40, MHR 160
10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m (as a lightweight)
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1159735
RHR 40, MHR 160
10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m (as a lightweight)
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1159735
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Keep up the great work..flatbread wrote: ↑June 1st, 2025, 7:17 pmThanks J. I hope I can do 1:53 r25 in Oct or so. My 60min was r24, so I'm guessing that's my true threshold rate.milansanremo wrote: ↑June 1st, 2025, 6:28 pmGood luck with your procedure... Robertflatbread wrote: ↑June 1st, 2025, 3:59 pmMinor tongue procedure on Tues, so I'll be taking most of this next week off.
10k check today. Started UT1 and built up.
39:12.0 10,000 1:57.6 215 1040 25
7:52.9 2,000 1:58.2 212 1028 24
7:53.3 4,000 1:58.3 211 1027 24
7:51.4 6,000 1:57.8 214 1035 25
7:49.4 8,000 1:57.3 217 1045 26
7:45.1 10,000 1:56.2 223 1066 27
Thanks for just dangling a "carrot" in front of me
On 4/28 I did a 1:59.5...,best so far.
I'm going to see how I feel today after a decent warmup.
No doubt 1:57.5 is a "Long Shot" without a doubt
John
I used slides today -- I always train on them and use them for 5k on up.
Didn't feel up to a tough 10 but managed a 5 in 1:57.5
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