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Post by johnlvs2run » July 3rd, 2006, 8:35 pm

PaulS wrote:Wow, the Worlds shortest Autobiography.
This is an example of another false publication made by Paul Smith.

And he presented that mispublication in public.

Thus by his own assertion, Paul Smith should be banned from the forum.

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Post by PaulS » July 3rd, 2006, 10:18 pm

John Rupp wrote:
PaulS wrote:to slander Mike
Wow another false accusation and mispublication by PaulS.
PaulS wrote:should earn you permanent expulsion from the C2 Forums.
You should be banned from the forums then, as you have made many false statements and misquotations about me and continue to make such mispublications JimR also has misquoted me many times and continues to do it. Thus based on your message today, both of you should be banned from the forums.

Actually why don't you just ban yourself. That will make it easier for everyone.
No John, as usual you are 180deg out of reality, give one example of my not telling the truth and I will ban myself from the Forum. You attributed a rather long paragraph to "MikeC" which MikeC (presumably Mike Caviston) never typed anything close to, yet you apparently typed the words and attributed them to him. Perhaps it should really be called forgery, which in some countries is a felony. That's not very good behavior for a Life Coach, is there an ethics board which can be shown your ongoing treatment of people so your behavior can be reviewed?

If you want to step up to the plate for a few innings of "JohnnyBall", that's fine, but you should realize that is how you have reached your current state of mind. A few more innings is about all I can see you making it through before you become irretrievably irrelevant, and at 60 that can't be a good thing at all. Anyway, you did everything to bring this on yourself, I was addressing only others in the forum and leaving you out of any discussion I was having, by introducing my name in your disrespectful posting I have the right to respond however I see fit, and unfortunately for you, aside from a bit of sniping when no-one is watching, you are not equipped to deal with the game you started.

My advice to you... Let it go. It's the only chance you have. Otherwise you will become a fool of even more enormous proportion.
Erg on,
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Post by johnlvs2run » July 3rd, 2006, 10:39 pm

PaulS wrote:give one example of my not telling the truth and I will ban myself from the Forum.
You said I had posted my autobiography, which was a lie as I did not do that.

So, go ahead and ban yourself from the forum.

It will be a better place without you. :wink:
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Post by johnlvs2run » July 3rd, 2006, 10:42 pm

PaulS wrote:it should really be called forgery
Again you are telling lies.

I have never forged anyone's signature in my life.
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Post by johnlvs2run » July 3rd, 2006, 10:44 pm

PaulS wrote:You attributed a rather long paragraph to "MikeC" which MikeC (presumably Mike Caviston) never typed anything close to, yet you apparently typed the words and attributed them to him.
Wow are you saying that Mike Caviston said those things?

That's amazing. Are you sure he said them?

If he didn't and you are saying that he did, then he might want to sue you for slander! But then since the written word is libel he might decide to sue you for libel, instead of slander eh.

I bet Mike Caviston is really ticked off that you said he said those things.

That is disgusting. :(
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Post by johnlvs2run » July 3rd, 2006, 10:47 pm

PaulS wrote:is there an ethics board which can be shown your ongoing treatment of people so your behavior can be reviewed?
I think there's a whiny board, where you can go and whine to yourself. :cry:
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Post by johnlvs2run » July 3rd, 2006, 10:50 pm

PaulS wrote:If you want to step up to the plate for a few innings of "JohnnyBall", that's fine, but you should realize that is how you have reached your current state of mind. A few more innings is about all I can see you making it through before you become irretrievably irrelevant, and at 60 that can't be a good thing at all.
Is that what you do to your wife and kids, Paul.

It is sad that you take your frustrations and anger out on others, instead of trying to better yourself and HELPING others, and from their perspective and not yours. Not everything and very few things are all about you.

A few more innings, eh. Hey why don't you just take your anger out on yourself. Or better than that learn to deal with it. Go out for a run or something. Then the people around you, your wife and kids or whoever, won't be living in fear of your tantrums.
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Post by johnlvs2run » July 3rd, 2006, 10:54 pm

PaulS wrote:Anyway, you did everything to bring this on yourself, I was addressing only others in the forum and leaving you out of any discussion I was having, by introducing my name in your disrespectful posting I have the right to respond however I see fit, and unfortunately for you, aside from a bit of sniping when no-one is watching, you are not equipped to deal with the game you started.
Again you are making up things. I didn't address any message to you till your hissy fit and I didn't say anything about you, even though you have continued to post things about me on the forum.

So again you are lying.

I will be happy to see you ban yourself but I bet that was another lie.

Sighs.... :(
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Post by PaulS » July 3rd, 2006, 11:43 pm

Nice rants Johnny, of course you said nothing truthful during any of it. In fact you created more lies about me, and about your postings with my name in them. What did I post about you? Nothing. Strange that you seem to think I was, why do you think everything is all about you?

I didn't think it was going to be that easy to cause you to self-destruct, but what a hoot. LOL

The Official regulators of Life Coaches are called the "Whiny Board", that figures.

When you get a grasp on reality, come back and play again.

Game over. As they say at Henley, "Won Easily."

Carry on, this is too pitiful to be a part of.
Erg on,
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Post by johnlvs2run » July 3rd, 2006, 11:51 pm

PaulS wrote:Game over. As they say at Henley, "Won Easily."
Well thanks but I wasn't really trying to "win", just gave you examples as you asked of your lies but like I said figured you were lying about banning yourself too as you are still here.

If you think that means I "win" then so be it. :)
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Post by tennstrike » July 4th, 2006, 12:06 am

PaulS wrote:As they say at Henley, "Won Easily."
Hi Paul:

First, thanks for all the good and free advice on the forum.

Second, when I read JR's post attributed to "MikeC" I laughed hard. I don't know if that was the most appropriate response, but it was the same one I often find myself having to many of Chad's posts. I really don't understand JR. Actually some his posts are good advice. It's almost like there are two people allowed to access his posting account.

Third, picking up on your Henley reference, I was glad to see St. Ignatius take the Princess Elizabeth Challenge Cup. I'm sure you were probably talking about the National Team racing as the Princeton whatevers. In the prep ranks, though, it was too bad TJ lost in the quarter finals. It would have been really great to see an all American final with TJ up against St. Ignatius. The boat my son rowed in this year split with TJ and lost (but by significantly less than 4 lengths) to St. Ignatius in Cincy. Both are really good boats.

I don't know if I am up for your 8K as you previously described. Maybe a slight modification, with the last 1K some kind of "all out". Haven't been rowing long enough for "what I've found" to mean very much, but the L4 workouts from the WP and a good, hard once a week L3 12K seem to make even a 6K much, much more bearable. Hey, you're already halfway home when you start!

Again, thanks for your posts.

Jeff
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Post by JimR » July 4th, 2006, 7:19 am

John -

In the thread found at http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... c&start=90 on page 7, post 14 you said ...

"The PERathon is not a training plan, but rather a measurement of PERformance."

I would like to point out this is an actual quote, by you, with no words changed. This is what I made reference to when I commented that Ben (who was asking about training) would not be able to translate the percentages you provided into guidenance for training.

I don't believe I have misrepresented your very clear and direct statement (quoted above). If I have perhaps you could explain how?

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Post by johnlvs2run » July 4th, 2006, 10:53 am

The PERathlon is not a training plan, as it doesn't set up any day to day or week to week training, and doesn't try to tell you what to do.

However it's accurate measurement of results gives an excellent guide to training, by either setting up one's own training program or evaluating the successes of others.

The PERathon is a measurement of performance, and is thus an excellent guide to training and improvement of performances.
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Post by JimR » July 5th, 2006, 12:18 pm

Ben Rea wrote:when i said its impoant. i meant that its nice to nice. Jim, i am concentrating on that stuff. and yes, i am in highschool :wink:
Ben ... a couple specific questions ...
1) do you have access to an erg
2) how many times a week do you erg
3) how many meters a week do you erg

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Post by JimR » July 5th, 2006, 12:24 pm

tennstrike wrote:
PaulS wrote:As they say at Henley, "Won Easily."
I don't know if I am up for your 8K as you previously described. Maybe a slight modification, with the last 1K some kind of "all out". Haven't been rowing long enough for "what I've found" to mean very much, but the L4 workouts from the WP and a good, hard once a week L3 12K seem to make even a 6K much, much more bearable. Hey, you're already halfway home when you start!

Again, thanks for your posts.

Jeff
Jeff ... I see suggested workouts that are quite different from what I usually do ... like PaulS described. My approach is to ease into the workout while not going too far too fast.

So I would take my 8K workout and for the last 2K I would go faster (I kind of do this anyway but I would be more precise about it) by some margin. I wouldn't ease into the distance of 2K but the faster pace.

So maybe 5 seconds/500m faster. Depending on that result I would speed up or slow down. After a couple passes I usually get the doing the workout as hard as I am able. Then I go with what MikeC advises ... don't be greedy, steady and constant improvement.

JimR

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