Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

Anyone can shorten his stroke and not do much work at all... IOW less effort.

Yes, that's what you do.

But most don't, because they haven't lost their aerobic capacity, as you have.

You shorten your stroke and trade rate for pace because you don't have the aerobic capacity to do otherwise, given your physical history and training.

If you trained appropriately, and just rowed well, both in training and when you race, as you certainly can, you would be faster, albeit still limited by your aerobic capacity.

IMHO, you should row 2Ks 1:40 @ 27 spm in a 3-to-1 ratio, as you do OTW, not 1:43 @ 36 spm in a 1-to-1 ratio, as though you don't know how to row well.

ranger

[ranger]

Between each brief drive of .5 seconds, I now get to rest 2.33 seconds, rather than less than a second.

Sorry for this typo.

This should read "I now get to rest 2.83 seconds" rather than "2.33."

ranger

[JimR]

I flew my second son, Colin, and daughter, Haley, to London and Paris in 2003 for my EIRC championship row... During the row, they were in the stands a few feet in front of my erg. Right next to MIke Caviston, who came over to see me row.

The bullshit piles up so quickly here, and I don’t read very closely, but this did catch my eye. As at most indoor rowing events, the veteran races preceded the senior races, and I was unable to see any of the veterans including my friends Joan Van Blom and Paul Hendershott since I was warming up for my own race (the one where I set the Euro Champ record). What possesses this lunatic to lie about absolutely everything?

[mikvan52]

Anyone can shorten his stroke and not do much work at all... IOW less effort.

Yes, that's what you do.

But most don't, because they haven't lost their aerobic capacity, as you have.

You shorten your stroke and trade rate for pace because you don't have the aerobic capacity to do otherwise, given your physical history and training.

If you trained appropriately, and just rowed well, both in training and when you race, as you certainly can, you would be faster, albeit still limited by your aerobic capacity.

IMHO, you should row 2Ks 1:40 @ 27 spm in a 3-to-1 ratio, as you do OTW, not 1:43 @ 36 spm in a 1-to-1 ratio, as though you don't know how to row well.

ranger

Why talk about me?.. and lie?
It's your thread.
Just keep on attempting to spread your garbage. Anyone with any education in exercise physiology can see that you misrepresent reality... It's really that simple... For whatever reason(s) you're a bald face troll.
.. It's so endearing to have you way out there in la-la land to entertain us with your antics!

If you want reality though:
Sit down today ad row a 16,000+ piece in less than an hour as I have recently done.
or
Sit down and go under 18:00 for 5k, which I did last fall.
You can no longer do these things because you are older. No shame here. I do not criticize you.


Last time it was measured ('08) , my VO2 max , was very close to 60, lab tested.
Yours is .... just hot air... untested and unrecorded.... so that you can maintain an illusion of virtual superiority.

This is the reality of our aerobic capacities.. not what you say to get a rise.

[mikvan52]

Mike--

BIRC 2010 didn't show anything at all.

I paddled my 2K at BIRC.

From the start, I was out of gas.

You can't see what an engine can do unless you fill it up.

ranger

... and the reason you won't come to Boston WITH A (SIC) FULL ENGINE is ..........?


I think ranger is referring to weight cutting here...
Even if he had his glycogen reserves in place he could not go under what Spousta and will do this coming Sunday. IOW: Not a 6:33 which means, too, No 6:16... ever. It's over Rich.

..back to you now...to go off topic .

Do you have the 1:24 -or-5 500m demo queued-up for us on youtube yet?

You need basic speed, too, you know...

finally:
You've still not answered my boring-but-true examination of SPI ...(being a non-measure of power performance)
but that's ok, we all know that the internet is a place where many people go to hide from the truth.

Two men have eclipsed ranger's WR from 2003. It drives him nuts. So much so that he doesn't write about them here. Then he didn't get close to the record in the next age group of lwts....FIve long years.... Wow!.....To attempt to stay emotionally balanced, he speaks of going 6:16 at 13 spi, his "theoretical limit"... un-hunh!
Woo-hoo! What a riot!

[Citroen]

What possesses this lunatic to lie about absolutely everything?

That's the ultimate question of life, the universe and "Ranger's training thread". He's a pathological liar with a 7:02 "best" this year. He seems to have lost every last grip on reality and is exposing his mental illness more and more.

[Tinus]

People who have questions about the mental state of some forumites (based on their online babbling) might not get the triality between mind, body and internet.

[JimR]

What possesses this lunatic to lie about absolutely everything?

That's the ultimate question of life, the universe and "Ranger's training thread". He's a pathological liar with a 7:02 "best" this year. He seems to have lost every last grip on reality and is exposing his mental illness more and more.

Perhaps he considers life to be art ... to be refined until it is beautiful ... and fits the flow of the dialog ... like a editor re-writing a story.

JimR

[Byron Drachman]

Oct 16, 2006: You'll soon see why. FM in 1:48, HM in 1:45--coming up soon, a product of this sort of training.

Nov 26, 2006: Before EIRC, I think I will hit many of my targets, as many as I have time to concentrate on and do: 8 x 500m @ 1:32; 4 x 1K @ 1:35; 4 x 2K @ 1:38; 5K @ 1:39; 6K @ 1:40; 10K @ 1:42; 17K for 60min; HM @ 1:45; FM @ 1:48; etc. What targets I don't hit before EIRC, I will hit between EIRC and WIRC.

Feb 20, 2007: Once I use my new stroke at all of the distances and am ready to race a 2K again, my racing will be consistent again--and quite a bit faster. I am just at stage 1 (stroking power and technique) in my training. Stage 2 (distance racing) coming up: FM 1:48 --snip--


March 2, 2007: FM, 1:48 @ 20 spm, I think, is in the bag. Just a matter of time (a month or so?), a little more training to get used to the distance.

March 21, 2007: First race, really, is a FM, in about three weeks or so.

March 29, 2007: I am doing a FM @ 1:48 in a month or so.

June 9, 2007: What seems to be in order now, at least occasionally, are FM rows, 1:47 @ 28 spm (10MPS), 95 df.

August 20, 2007: How about a FM, 1:48 @ 20 spm? Coming up!

September 19, 2007: Eventually, I will do a FM, 1:48 @ 19 spm.

November 26, 2007: Before long, I'll be doing a FM 1:48 @ 20 spm (14 SPI).

February 10, 2008: I will also get a lwt FM done this winter.

April 5, 2008: I am doing a FM trial at the end of the month. I'll do my FM trial at 22 spm.

April 30, 2008: As I train for a FM, 1:45 @ 22 spm, I will indeed step on those stones-- repeatedly. I thought I was only going to pull a FM @ 1:48. Now that 1:45 has become possible, the intermediate goals don't have to be races.

May 7, 2008: This month I will take a slap at the FM and 60min WRs for the 50s hwts.

December 20, 2008: I think I will pull a FM, 1:48 @ 24 spm (12 SPI), before New Years.

April 6, 2009: At the end of the month, I am going to try a FM, 1:48 @ 22 spm.

Dec 18, 2009: I'm lovin' 1:46 @ 26 spm, HR in and around 160 bpm. Relaxing stuff. Before this winter rowing season is done, I think I'll do it for a FM.

Dec 27, 2009: I'll race a FM over the next couple of weeks, before I go back to teaching on January 7th.

Feb 11, 2010: That means that within the month, I will row a FM @ 1:45 and 60min at 1:40.

March 24, 2010: To start off, I think I'll do a FM at 1:48.

March 30, 2010: Before the end of the month, I will do all of the races, from 500m to FM--all as a lwt. I will do them IND_V and enter them in the 50s lwt rankings.

April 17, 2010: I am prepared for distance trials, so the result should much more impressive, hopefully in line with my 2K goal: 6:16.

May 7, 2010: Distance trials are coming soon. They will tell the story.

May 15, 2010: A nice summer goal from now until September would be to keep pushing up my pre-dawn meters on the erg until I get to that FM, 1:45 @ 27 spm--just naturally.

June 12, 2010: Over the next three months, I need to work my rowing, 1:48 @ 25 spm (11 SPI), into a FM, settling and stabilizing my heart rate at lower and lower levels, as I "groove" to the cadence.

July 14, 2010: I'll need to do a FM, 1:48 @ 22 spm (12.5 SPI). To do this, I will have to keep my HR below 155 bpm/75% HRR.

July 14, 2010: But when I get the FM done, 1:48 @ 22 spm, then we'll know. --snip--We'll know the answer by September 1st.

July 28, 2010: I have never hit the wall rowing a FM. I don't even have to drink water along the way. You just pick a pace; hold it, and row.

Nov 9, 2010: Haven't done the FM yet, but I now row 1:48 at a low UT1, FM, heart rate, and so it I can do it whenever I bear down and give it a go --snip--

Jan 21, 2011: A nice time to do a FM trial might be next week, right after I turn 60, so I can challenge Osterling's 60s hwt WR.

Feb 15, 2011: I'll test these things pretty soon, when I do my first FM trial this spring, rowing well (13 SPI) at low drag (119 df.) with my improved technique.

[JimR]

Byron ... awesome research!!! What I find so interesting is that everyone knows (according to ranger) that SPI is everything and stroke rates are fixed ... so to se the FM at 1:48 will be done at rates between 19 and 28 is odd.

Perhaps the ranger is a bit confused or indecisive?

[atklein90]

That is absolutely fantastic research! I've only been reading his bullshit for 15 months or so. It's amazing to see how long it's actually been going on! Wow. To think you have nothing better to do with your time....

[hjs]

That is absolutely fantastic research! I've only been reading his bullshit for 15 months or so. It's amazing to see how long it's actually been going on! Wow. To think you have nothing better to do with your time....

You missed the beginning, In those days he could still row in the low 6.30 ish, so he realluy, really believed what he did would work, now it's utter nonsonse just to keep the thread going

[JimR]

That is absolutely fantastic research! I've only been reading his bullshit for 15 months or so. It's amazing to see how long it's actually been going on! Wow. To think you have nothing better to do with your time....

You missed the beginning, In those days he could still row in the low 6.30 ish, so he realluy, really believed what he did would work, now it's utter nonsonse just to keep the thread going

Well ... anything to avoid paying his debts I suppose ...

JimR

[hjs]

That is absolutely fantastic research! I've only been reading his bullshit for 15 months or so. It's amazing to see how long it's actually been going on! Wow. To think you have nothing better to do with your time....

You missed the beginning, In those days he could still row in the low 6.30 ish, so he realluy, really believed what he did would work, now it's utter nonsonse just to keep the thread going

Well ... anything to avoid paying his debts I suppose ...

JimR

That's not that important for him I think, he is simply dishonoust by nature, proberly has been all his life, so no big deal for him.
I am wondering though, what fool things does he do besides what he does here? If you are so proven dishonoust and lie more or less about anything, what more kind of misbehaving does he do?, it can't be that he is a different man in other situations.

[jliddil]

What possesses this lunatic to lie about absolutely everything?