Ranger's training thread

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by atklein90 » February 15th, 2011, 9:02 pm

ranger wrote:
atklein90 wrote:To think you have nothing better to do with your time....
As I understand, the average American spends an hour commuting, nine hours sleeping, and five hours watching TV.

Yikes.

I sleep five hours, have no commute to speak of, and don't really watch any TV at all.

So, that gives me an additional ten hours a day.

You think I should spend nine hours watching TV, sleeping, and riding in my car, so that I could use my free time more effectively, like other people, rather than posting for an hour or so on the internet

ranger

The difference is, the average American doesn't spend a minimum of an hour a day, telling lies on the Internet to a fairly small group of very knowledgeable individuals (myself excluded from that group). The average American doesn't have the ridiculous ego that you have. The average American backs up his/her disputed claims with evidence. The average American provides details of his training when asked, rather than blabbing about 20K a day garbage.

You on the other hand, are simply a pathetic loser with nothing better to do than tell lie after lie. I truly feel sorry for your children that have to claim you as their father. Unfortunately, they didnt have a choice in who their father is. What a pathetic example you've set for them. I just pray you don't have grandchildren that will eventually be influenced by your bullshit.
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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by Steve G » February 16th, 2011, 5:29 am

Citroen wrote:
Steve G wrote:It is normal in cycling Time Trials to "send apologies" if you cannot attend, this is actually printed on start sheets. Just seems common courtesy, and as you say frees up a place
If you have a full field of 120 and ten reserves then the "DNS apologies" folks make it easier to slot a reserve into the race. I've never had the open TT that I organised over subscribed.

You should come and ride it, 25miles on H25/8 A31 Bentley bypass in September it's run as a "slowest 120" so that the fast folks get bumped out rather than the slow folks. The ladies race is run as a seperate event so that they are guaranteed a ride.
Dougie, the V718 at Hull is always oversubscribed, there are quite a few TTs on that circuit, good thing is they also have a slowest 120, I manage to get into that with my meagre 24.01 PB! Will look out for your event, Rocket Roy may give me one of his old Pinarellos :D

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 16th, 2011, 7:13 am

Mike (VB)--

If your HR is pushing up over your anaerobic threshold after 10 minutes of rowing 1:58 at low rates, what is your UT2 pace these days?

What pace can you do for 90min @ 22 spm, steady state, with a HR of 125 bpm (70% HRR).

Is your UT2 pace now way up over 2:00 pace?

2:00 pace is UT2 for a 7:00 2K.

2:00 @ 22 spm is only 9 SPI.

Yea.

Getting old is a bummer.

If you don't use it, you lose it.

Most 60s lwts pull 9 SPI.

The 60s lwt FM WR is 2:00 pace (2:48).

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 16th, 2011, 7:17 am

With my "Steamroller" sessions, I am trying to get 1:48 @ 22 spm (12.5 SPI) down to UT2.

I am nowhere near my anaerobic threshold (172 bpm) when I am rating 22 spm.

For me, UT2 (70% HRR) is 145 bpm.

145 bpm is right about the HR that I tend to run on a stepper or bike when I cross-train for a couple of hours.

When I ran marathons, I liked to do my training with a HR of around 145 bpm.

I can run a HR of abut 155 bpm (77% HRR) for a FM.



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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » February 16th, 2011, 7:31 am

ranger ---

Have you thought about the answer to Mike's question?
Mike Caviston wrote:
ranger wrote:I flew my second son, Colin, and daughter, Haley, to London and Paris in 2003 for my EIRC championship row... During the row, they were in the stands a few feet in front of my erg. Right next to MIke Caviston, who came over to see me row.
The bullshit piles up so quickly here, and I don’t read very closely, but this did catch my eye. As at most indoor rowing events, the veteran races preceded the senior races, and I was unable to see any of the veterans including my friends Joan Van Blom and Paul Hendershott since I was warming up for my own race (the one where I set the Euro Champ record). What possesses this lunatic to lie about absolutely everything?


It seems you just make thinks up ... can you share the reason why?

Please don't post a dozen single-spaced rehashes of old news to drive this away ... it is a reasonable question after all.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 16th, 2011, 7:32 am

atklein90 wrote:The average American backs up his/her disputed claims with evidence.
Well, I have three WR rows, have won all of the major championships, BIRC twice, and have the best 2K in my age and weight division for the last two years, last year, by a wide margin (six seconds), even though I haven't been training to race.

Last year, no one my age and weight (or older) came within 20 seconds of my 2K.

How about you?

If you are trying to pull sub-6:20, then you are rowing about 10 seconds per 500 off the best rowers in your age and weight division (30s hwts).

Why?

I am trying to pull sub-6:20--as a 60s lwt.

The difference between the standards in our two age and weight divisions is 16 seconds per 500m.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 16th, 2011, 7:34 am

JimR wrote:It seems you just make things up
Hardly.

As a veteran/50s rower, I pulled 6:27.5., 6:28, 6:28.5, 6:29, 6:29.7, 6:30, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:33, 6:36, etc., all of them at race venues, most of them as a lightweight.

How about you?

The erg doesn't lie.

The erg is a truth machine.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » February 16th, 2011, 7:38 am

ranger wrote:
atklein90 wrote:The average American backs up his/her disputed claims with evidence.
Well, I have three WR rows, have won all of the major championships, BIRC twice, and have the best 2K in my age and weight division for the last two years, last year, by a wide margin (six seconds), even though I haven't been training to race.

How about you?

I you are try to pull sub-6:20, then you are rowing about 10 seconds per 500 off the best rowers your age and weight.

Why?

ranger
What does this have to do with you missing your 6:16 2K by so much over the last 8 years that it has become a joke? What does this have to do with you throwing in the towel this year ... the year you were going to reset the the record books of what was possible?

Did you see the excellent recap Byron gathered of your first trial (the FM) ... it seems the first step on your journey is out of reach ... how poetic!

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » February 16th, 2011, 7:40 am

ranger wrote:
JimR wrote:It seems you just make things up
Hardly.

As a veteran/50s rower, I pulled 6:27.5., 6:28, 6:28.5, 6:29, 6:29.7, 6:30, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:32, 6:33, 6:36, etc., all of them at race venues, most of them as a lightweight.

How about you?

The erg doesn't lie.

The erg is a truth machine.

ranger
The erg may be a truth machine but why did you claim Mike C was watching you race, sitting next to your son, when it was not possible?

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by macroth » February 16th, 2011, 7:40 am

In summary, ranger:

Why do you lie so much, you pathetic clown?
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All time PBs: 100m 14.0 | 500m 1:18.1 | 1k 2:55.7 | 2k 6:15.4 | 5k 16:59.3 | 6k 20:46.5 | 10k 35:46.0
40+ PBs: 100m 14.7 | 500m 1:20.5 | 1k 2:59.6 | 2k 6:21.9 | 5k 17:29.6 | HM 1:19:33.1| FM 2:51:58.5 | 100k 7:35:09 | 24h 250,706m

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 16th, 2011, 7:43 am

JimR wrote:What does this have to do with you missing your 6:16 2K by so much over the last 8 years that it has become a joke?
My training is coming along beautifully, but isn't yet complete.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (119 df.).

I am now training at 26 spm.

Next up: distance trials.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by ranger » February 16th, 2011, 7:45 am

JImR wrote:The erg may be a truth machine but why did you claim Mike C was watching you race, sitting next to your son, when it was not possible?
You are assuming that Mike is remembering correctly.

He isn't.

The event was eight years ago.

Mike was right in the stands in front of me while I was rowing.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » February 16th, 2011, 7:49 am

ranger wrote:
JimR wrote:What does this have to do with you missing your 6:16 2K by so much over the last 8 years that it has become a joke?
My training is coming along beautifully, but isn't yet complete.

I now row well (13 SPI) at low drag (119 df.).

I am now training at 26 spm.

Next up: distance trials.

ranger
Distance trials have to start with a FM ... so you have said so many times. Yet Byron provided ample information to conclude the first step in your journey has been 4 (or mor years) in the waiting. It isn't clear you could do a FM on the erg any longer.

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by macroth » February 16th, 2011, 7:49 am

ranger wrote:
JImR wrote:The erg may be a truth machine but why did you claim Mike C was watching you race, sitting next to your son, when it was not possible?
You are assuming that Mike is remembering correctly.
Given your body of work, most people would do well to bring an umbrella if you said the sun was shining.
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All time PBs: 100m 14.0 | 500m 1:18.1 | 1k 2:55.7 | 2k 6:15.4 | 5k 16:59.3 | 6k 20:46.5 | 10k 35:46.0
40+ PBs: 100m 14.7 | 500m 1:20.5 | 1k 2:59.6 | 2k 6:21.9 | 5k 17:29.6 | HM 1:19:33.1| FM 2:51:58.5 | 100k 7:35:09 | 24h 250,706m

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Re: Ranger's training thread

Post by JimR » February 16th, 2011, 7:53 am

ranger wrote:
JImR wrote:The erg may be a truth machine but why did you claim Mike C was watching you race, sitting next to your son, when it was not possible?
You are assuming that Mike is remembering correctly.

He isn't.

The event was eight years ago.

Mike was right in the stands in front of me while I was rowing.

ranger
So although (a) it would be impossible for Mike to be in two places at once (watching and warming up) and (b) Mike has been very clear and direct in his postings and (c) you have been proven to make stuff up to suit your story ... we should all believe it was Mike who is confused?!

That has a certain irony to it I think. Perhaps you should address the question being asked more frequently as the days go by ...

Why do you lie so much?

JimR

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