Optimal Drag Piece Based

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pes949
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Optimal Drag Piece Based

Post by pes949 » June 12th, 2019, 11:36 pm

Ok I am sure it is here somewhere but I tried searching to get some ideas about how to set drag on short vs. long piece work.

Short intense sessions between 500 and 2k is it better to go with a higher DF? My problem on short fast pieces is my stroke rate is harder to control.

On Longer pieces I typically use 115 or so between 5k and 60 Minute. For longer such as HM, M, 50k is it better to lower DF?

Just want to get some opinions. I feel that I need to build some power and also not do any damage to my body in the process.
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Re: Optinal Drag Piece Based

Post by hjs » June 13th, 2019, 3:17 am

pes949 wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 11:36 pm
Ok I am sure it is here somewhere but I tried searching to get some ideas about how to set drag on short vs. long piece work.

Short intense sessions between 500 and 2k is it better to go with a higher DF? My problem on short fast pieces is my stroke rate is harder to control.

On Longer pieces I typically use 115 or so between 5k and 60 Minute. For longer such as HM, M, 50k is it better to lower DF?

Just want to get some opinions. I feel that I need to build some power and also not do any damage to my body in the process.
There are no given drags. To mimic otw rowing use 120/40, this will give a water feeling.
For the rest, there are two things, use as high as your body can tolerate but at the same time, as low as need to pull the paces you need.
Only for pure sprinting higher drag is needed, due to the limitation in speedmovement.

Also, not the drag, but we ourselves create the resistance, there are people who row drag 200 plus and some even remove the metal ring and go above 300. For everyday, fitness use, certainly when you are no racer, 110/15 is plenty.
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Re: Optinal Drag Piece Based

Post by Dangerscouse » June 13th, 2019, 3:53 am

I usually row at circa 130 for more or less every session nowadays but I also found 115 to be a good drag factor for the ultra distances. When tiredness kicks in I found the lower drag helped avoid sloppy technique.

It's very subjective so just have a play around and find what feels best to you.
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Re: Optimal Drag Piece Based

Post by KeithT » June 13th, 2019, 8:33 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 3:53 am
I usually row at circa 130 for more or less every session nowadays but I also found 115 to be a good drag factor for the ultra distances. When tiredness kicks in I found the lower drag helped avoid sloppy technique.

It's very subjective so just have a play around and find what feels best to you.
Stu and I are very much alike here. I row pretty much everything at a 130 other than shorter sprints (1k and under) and then only if trying for a PB or something. I never change for longer rows, I think I tried a little less drag once and felt I had to up my rate too much. Again its a personal thing but I wouldn't deviate too much from your normal drag.
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1 min - 373m, 500m - 1:23.2, 1K - 2:59.8, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.9, 5K - 17:27, 30 min - 8277m, 10K - 36:30, 60 min - 16036, HM - 1:20:22

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Re: Optimal Drag Piece Based

Post by jimmyshand » June 15th, 2019, 1:52 pm

I've experimented a lot with this and for a 1k or 2k max effort I use a drag of 120. My 5k PB was at 113 and my 10k at 116. I seem to favour a lower drag than others but it feels best for me and i find I can make a better connection with the machine.

Certainly if I was going for a max 500m effort I'd consider a bit higher drag but generally I'm always at or around 110 to 120.
42 years old - 97kg/214lbs - 198cm/6'6" - I live in England

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1k 3:15.6 | 2k 6:51.4 | 5k 18:25.2 | 30min 8,016m | 10k 37:53.6 | 60min 15,254m | HM 1:25:38.4

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