New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Post by johnlvs2run » May 4th, 2008, 12:07 pm

The average flywheel speed is the same, but the flywheel speed is fastest at end of the drive, and slowest at end of recovery.
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Post by Nosmo » May 4th, 2008, 10:17 pm

Carl Henrik wrote:
Each strokes, adds 219W * 2.5s = 547.5J to the flywheel, and the same amount is lost on the recovery.
Again I was first convinced but now have second thoughts of a method.

All though you can precisely determine how much work is performed each drive, all that energy will not be saved in the flywheel, waiting to start dissipating until the recovery. Much of the 547.5J will already have dissipated when the recovery starts. Although how much precisely is difficult to say.
Yes, you are correct of course.--overlooked that. With erg monitor I could calculate how much is dissipated on the drive and the recovery.

And it was 57% left or 43% lost--I wrote it wrong the first time.

And yes we should have started a new thread.

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10K PB!

Post by TabbRows » May 10th, 2008, 10:30 am

Starting the season with a 10K PB 40:27.9 :D

first 4K 2:02.1 avg @ 22 spm
next 5K 2:01.1 avg @23 spm (couldn't keep it @2:00 or lower for Ks 7&8 and hard to bring sustained rating up above 24)
final 1K 1:59.9 getting the rating to average 25 with spurts up to 27.

Negative split for final 5K almost what prior 5K best was.

This was all on residual from marathon training.
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Re: 10K PB!

Post by Bob S. » May 10th, 2008, 11:11 am

TabbRows wrote:Starting the season with a 10K PB 40:27.9 :D

This was all on residual from marathon training.
According to MVB, this is lunacy.

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Post by Tinpusher » May 17th, 2008, 1:48 pm

30r20 8121m HR 167 1:50.8

6' splits:
1639 1:49.8
1626 1:50.7
1612 1:51.6
1616 1:50.3
1628 1:50.5

Beats the one and only other effort of 8083m from December 1 2007.

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Re: 10K PB!

Post by johnlvs2run » May 17th, 2008, 4:32 pm

TabbRows wrote:Starting the season with a 10K PB 40:27.9 :D
Nice PB.

At 24 spm, you averaged 10.3 meters per stroke!

World record holder Henrik Stephansen averages 8 meters per stroke.

You must be quite tall and strong to cover so much more distance with each stroke than he does.
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Post by stecson » May 18th, 2008, 2:58 pm

since its my first attempt... its my pb! haha

2k pb 7:26.03
25yo 5'11 195lb

500m - 1:30.1
2k - 7:26.03

Started rowing beginning May 08 and I love it.

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Post by TabbRows » May 20th, 2008, 12:28 pm

At 24 spm, you averaged 10.3 meters per stroke!

World record holder Henrik Stephansen averages 8 meters per stroke.

You must be quite tall and strong to cover so much more distance with each stroke than he does.
John, I'm 3 years behind you and on a good day maybe 7/8th inch taller! I know my meters per stroke goes down to at or below 8 when I go above 27spm. But never did an accurate caculation.
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Post by BrianStaff » May 21st, 2008, 11:02 pm

I warmed up with a 1000 meters in 4:6.6 @ 21 spm
I think that translates to 11.6 meters per stroke

Then a PB for 2000 meters in 8:6.8 @ 26 spm

I'll break that 8 minute barrier, but I need to improve my stamina first.

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PB: 500m 1:44.0 2K 7:57.1 5K 20:58.7 30' 6866m

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Post by Heaviestuser » May 31st, 2008, 5:21 am

Yesterday I improved my 2K P.b. for this season (2009) with 0.1 sec.

It is still 14 seconds slower than my lifetime P.b.. So there is room for improvement.
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1:43:0 500M
3:39:9 1K
7:40:9 2 K
20:11:2 5 K
25:30:9 6 K
44:04:7 10 K
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Post by TabbRows » May 31st, 2008, 3:36 pm

Finally broke the 20 minute barrier for a 5K this morning. :D
19:57.8 25spm avg. 204 watts.
Followed a 40% At +1; 30%@Even 20% -1 and 10% all out strategy.
Worked like a charm.
1K = 4:01.9, 24spm, 10.33mps
2K= 4:02.9, 24spm, 10.3 mps
3K =3:59.9, 26spm, 9.62 mps
4K= 3:59.3, 26spm, 9.64 mps
5K= 3:53.8, 27 spm, 9.51 mps

Had enough in the tank to go row with our rec crew for an hour.
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Post by Tinpusher » June 1st, 2008, 1:52 pm

30' 8514m r28 1:45.7 :D

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Post by Tinpusher » June 5th, 2008, 6:07 pm

Uh oh, back to back posts!

60' 16351m r26 1:50.1 :D

700m r24 @1:54; 300m r28 @1:45

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OTW races, and new 2K PR

Post by Nosmo » June 19th, 2008, 3:28 pm

I've been almost exclusively rowing on the water. Did 3 sprint races on Sunday, 1x,2x & 4x. First across the line in all three, but only got 2nd in the 2x because of the age handicap. It was small race (12 boats total in all three races). Rowed poorly in the 1x, better in the 2x and fairly decently in the 4x. I did not feel at all prepared for 1000m races. Hadn't done much high stroke rating and my starts kind of stink. Only been in a 1x a few times in two months. My normal 2x partner doesn't like 1K races and I only rowed twice in the 2x with my race partner he is inexperienced but fit. Joined the boat that beat us on handicap for the quad race. The four of us only rowed together twice. So it was pretty good day over all. 2 wins in one day is a PR. Added bonus was I got to meet Deborah.

Today:
2K 7:01.4 new PR by 10.2 seconds (last one was ~16 months ago) Not an all out 2K but it gave me confidence I can go under 7:00 if I made a real serious attempt.

The not so gory details:
Took Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday off. I planned on 4x2K 6'r yesterday but just slept late and had too many other things to do. So this morning got up and couldn't decide what to do. I've got 25K+ OTW in a 2x scheduled for tomorrow, I was running out of time, and it was a bad air day. Did a 4.5K warm up and just wasn't feeling that good or motivated. Set the monitor for 4x2K 6'R. But before I started decided to just do a solid 2K figuring I could brake my old PR fairly easily. I doing 30 spm averaging a relatively comfortable 1:45.8 until 600m to go when I picked it up. It hurt but not nearly as much as racing on Sunday so I know I can go a couple of seconds faster.

Once again in honor of my new PR:
from http://launchexhaust.blogspot.com/2007/ ... -test.html

Anon:

In my experience, those who spend lots of time bragging on their erg scores usually have some other sort of issue that needs to be addressed. Either technical, or mental.

My point, young man, is that nobody wants a braggart in their boat. That's not what rowing is about. I've rowed with and seen plenty of your type before. When the coach mentions a technical problem, you smirk to yourself and think, I'm fine, I'll just pull harder. After practice, you talk with one or two other people, complaining that somebody doesn't belong in the boat and they're not pulling hard enough.

Frankly, BOY, you haven't won s***, you're too young to know s*** and your arrogance displayed here reveals a character flaw that leads me to predict your rowing career won't last much beyond some mediocre time spent in a second or third boat. Oh, I'm sure that some coach at a high-level institution will see your great erg score and get fooled into thinking you're something special. That is, if you have the grades to get in, which I doubt. However, you will get beaten in seat races by men who are quiet, row well, match up with the crew and are 20 seconds slower than you on the almighty erg. Your coach will shake his head, try to put you in the varsity, and give up after losing a few races.

This blog is a forum to talk about rowing, coaching and exchange ideas. Not anonymous spray-painting on the walls. But here's the part where you prove what kind of person you are: You'll do one of three things.

1) Slink off, thinking "what a loser, I don't need to prove anything to him." When we're all thinking the same thing about you.

2) Post some sort of childish retort, complete with the phantom races that you've won, but keeping your school/name out of it. Kind of like how you DO have a girlfriend, but she just goes to another school. And you don't want to tell anybody her name.

3) Grow up, say I'm sorry about coming off like as ass. Go talk to your coach and honestly ask him how you can make your *team* better. Realize that there will ALWAYS be somebody with a faster erg score and you'd better figure out how to make the boat move and move with your teammates. Somehow, I doubt this will be the end result.

Don't come in here bragging about being a big dog, son. The only bragging that goes on here is about somebody's TEAM. If you want everything to be all about you, then you're in the wrong sport.

Besides, it's my blog, so by definition, I'm the BIGGEST DOG THERE IS.

Nosmo:
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2K: 7:01.4
5K: 18:27.7
10K: 37:56.7

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Post by Tinpusher » June 21st, 2008, 2:35 pm

HM PB 1:18:50.4 r25 1:52.1
PB by 3:43.2 :D
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