max stroke rate on C2

[GlennUk]

Does anyone know if there is a max spm rate that the C2 will work at?

Just curious

[gvcormac]

Depends what you mean by "work." There is a limit on how fast the bungee cord can retract the chain. You start to push that around 50-60 spm, but with short strokes you could probably go higher.

[GlennUk]

Thanks i was wondering about the machine specifically, expecial;y given at hi spm the chain on my c2 whips around a bit on the recovery. Your comments re the buingee is quite prophetic.

When attempting 100m pb the chain did not engage with the sprocket at the catch and i wacked myself just below the knee. Tried a second time and wacked myself again. The whacks were hard enough to bruise and draw blood, i was going for it!!

spoke with C2 discussed how to know if the bc is tight enough,re-adjusted and has been fine since.

[MPx]

Does anyone know if there is a max spm rate that the C2 will work at?

Just curious

I've been up to 60 and that was my limit if not the machine's...

[mict450]

I've been up to 60 and that was my limit if not the machine's...

Wow!! That's impressive if you're on a static! Is that a partial or full stroke?

Think what you could do on a dynamic!

[MPx]

Ha! Yes on a static, never been on slides or a dynamic. I suspect the uncoordinated flailing around to achieve that rate wouldn't work at all if not tied down! Of course not anywhere near a full stroke...but once you run out of strength, rate is the only variable left to bring the numbers down.

[Elizabeth]

These are my highest on slides. I think some of the listed spm is a rounding error due to how short the intervals are, they were only like 14 strokes each.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 61
0:04.0 25m 1:20.0 684 2652 60
0:03.5 50m 1:10.0 1020 3811 68
0:03.6 75m 1:12.0 938 3527 50
0:03.6 100m 1:12.0 938 3527 67

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.7 100m 1:13.5 881 3333 61
0:04.0 25m 1:20.0 684 2652 60
0:03.5 50m 1:10.0 1020 3811 51
0:03.6 75m 1:12.0 938 3527 67
0:03.6 100m 1:12.0 938 3527 66

My form completely breaks down when I'm going this high, and the chain slaps everywhere.

[Sakly]

Does anyone know if there is a max spm rate that the C2 will work at?

Just curious

I've been up to 60 and that was my limit if not the machine's...

My training partner gets up to 66 shown on the PM5 during a 200m. It's on a few month old rowErg.

[GlennUk]

FWIW

i got slides about a month ago, just did a PB on for 100 and found it greatly helped with short strokes compared with the static.

My recent 100m PB on slides (15s) was at 76spm, obvs not full strokes

I may give the 100m a go static to see if i can improve my pb in that mode too (currently 16.0)

[GlennUk]

My form completely breaks down when I'm going this high, and the chain slaps everywhere.

With regards to form, i find with slides my rates are naturally higher, which brings its own challenges. What i am working on is form for those rates, which will likley bring significant benefits and the discussion with my coach is about improving form at any rate. Notwithstanding that when sprinting there's a trade off with number of strokes versus length of stroke and finding the best combination to deliver max power.

The point being that if one trains for higher rates, part of that training is to develop ones form to adapt to those rates to, there will no doubt be an upper spm when one can deliver full strokes at proper form.

[Sakly]

Notwithstanding that when sprinting there's a trade off with number of strokes versus length of stroke and finding the best combination to deliver max power.

Definitely. It already shows, when comparing my training partner and my 200m.
His 33.3 was done at 66, my 33.1 was done at 47, both at the same drag and we are the same height and nearly weight.
Not saying he could perform better when lowering rate, as this is very individual, only showing very different rates and stroke techniques can lead to similar results.

[mict450]

Hooey sheesh!! All of you with stroke rates in the stratosphere must be like 75% fast twitch muscles. Ton of respect for you all!!!

If I tried something like that, I'd end up in traction or dead!!

[btlifter]

Hooey sheesh!! All of you with stroke rates in the stratosphere must be like 75% fast twitch muscles. Ton of respect for you all!!!

If I tried something like that, I'd end up in traction or dead!!

Actually, I'm primarily slow twitch. And, my rate is higher than most of these jive turkeys'. Stroke rate is primarily dictated by technical considerations and practice.

[Dangerscouse]

Actually, I'm primarily slow twitch.

The difference between you and everyone else is that your slow twitch has a Richter scale rating

[JaapvanE]

Ha! Yes on a static, never been on slides or a dynamic. I suspect the uncoordinated flailing around to achieve that rate wouldn't work at all if not tied down! Of course not anywhere near a full stroke...but once you run out of strength, rate is the only variable left to bring the numbers down.

That is basically like skipping a rope..... Wouldn't the sliding up and down exhaust you?