What Training Have You Done Today?

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » February 28th, 2018, 6:56 am

Yep. Danny Graham (fellow Team Oarsome member) hold the current British HM record for 40-49 (1hr 13m) and his HR for a recent 10km 1:50pace r20 was circa 120 and he thinks his max is circa 168. Mind-bogglingly low for a 1:50 pace imo
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by gregory.cook » February 28th, 2018, 1:06 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:Yep. Danny Graham (fellow Team Oarsome member) hold the current British HM record for 40-49 (1hr 13m) and his HR for a recent 10km 1:50pace r20 was circa 120 and he thinks his max is circa 168. Mind-bogglingly low for a 1:50 pace imo
About 10 years ago I was watching coverage of the TdF on TV and they were reporting HRs of several of the riders. Many were in the 170s or 180s with max around 200. One guy had an HR of 135 and a max of 153. HR alone doesn't mean much.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » February 28th, 2018, 1:57 pm

I did a dry run of next month's CTC (15 mins; 3 mins rest; 15 mins again) and I struggled to maintain a 1:47.6 average for the first interval. It wasn't due to pacing myself, it was just a struggle. It felt like i had left half of me back in bed. I HDed the last interval after 6 mins as I just fell apart.

I then did a 5k at r21 to try and get used to slower rates (r22 feels alright now) and it was an average of 1:56ish.

Cheers Greg. HR is something I'm now going to ignore unless I'm doing a HR limited session.
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by lwtguy » February 28th, 2018, 2:29 pm

It's nice to know I'm in some good company here! My favorite example of a high HR is when Eric Murray set the Hour record. Heart rate above 190 for 80% of the piece!
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6K 21:11.2-- 30' 8342m-- 10K 35:54-- 60' 16209m

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by nick rockliff » February 28th, 2018, 2:34 pm

Yesterday, joined a 30 min session on Rowpro. Plan was 1.50 r24. Didn't go to plan....

30 min - 8019 - 1.52.2 - 22

06 - 1638 - 1.49.9 - 23 - 149 end HR
12 - 1635 - 1.50.1 - 23 - 156
18 - 1636 - 1.50.0 - 23 - 159
24 - 1493 - 2.00.6 - 22 - 158
30 - 1619 - 1.51.2 - 23 - 162

HR much too high from the start and too a 30 second break to catch my breath. Was very cold in the garage though so that could have something to do with it??

Tonight, even colder in the garage but joined another 30 min session on Rowpro. Plan would be to flat line 1.52 r22

30 min - 8040 - 1.51.9 - 22

06 - 1607 - 1.52.0 - 22 - 144
12 - 1608 - 1.51.9 - 22 - 150
18 - 1608 - 1.51.9 - 22 - 153
24 - 1608 - 1.51.9 - 22 - 155
30 - 1609 - 1.51.9 - 22 - 159

HR much better and no problems, put yesterday down to a blip.
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PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » February 28th, 2018, 3:27 pm

lwtguy wrote:It's nice to know I'm in some good company here! My favorite example of a high HR is when Eric Murray set the Hour record. Heart rate above 190 for 80% of the piece!
Not sure who it was now, but they are an international standard rower and commented that he has a HR of up to 210 and his IG photo showed it averaging 195. There's no rule for max HR it would appear
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Erik A » February 28th, 2018, 5:37 pm

with regards to HR... all im concerned about is if it stops :lol: ... the rest i can manage
not sure how accurate this is but when i walk from the rower to the bike and use the HR monitor on the bike mine usually is sitting at about 130... very seldom any higher. i do however take this as an approximate and not an accurate representation of my HR.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by kini62 » February 28th, 2018, 6:10 pm

Yesterday AM, 2K erg, 2K skierg, 2K erg

PM, 10 sets of 500M erg around 1:57-58 (PM2+ doesn't average) and 500M skierg (too slow to post :cry: ) This was alternating between the two.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by mdpfirrman » February 28th, 2018, 7:25 pm

@ Lindsay - pretty smart of them in Australia to pay attention to something (indoor rowing) that's much more accessible to the masses than OTW rowing. Opens up the "pool" much more for potential talent.

Look at the women's champion in the Winter Olympics in downhill skiing. Just picked up skiing from snowboarding and crushed the competitors. Pretty amazing but snowboarding is more popular now among the young. I still see OTW rowing as somewhat an elite crowd (I realize there are a lot of exceptions) but indoor rowing probably has three times the numbers now.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by G-dub » February 28th, 2018, 7:45 pm

Mike - or the rollerblade skaters feeding into speed or short track skating on ice and roller hockey feeding into ice hockey. What’s nice is it’s brought in people of various backgrounds and colors to what used to be very white sports in the US
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by lindsayh » February 28th, 2018, 7:53 pm

mdpfirrman wrote:@ Lindsay - pretty smart of them in Australia to pay attention to something (indoor rowing) that's much more accessible to the masses than OTW rowing. Opens up the "pool" much more for potential talent. Look at the women's champion in the Winter Olympics in downhill skiing. Just picked up skiing from snowboarding and crushed the competitors. Pretty amazing but snowboarding is more popular now among the young. I still see OTW rowing as somewhat an elite crowd (I realize there are a lot of exceptions) but indoor rowing probably has three times the numbers now.
Yes Mike it is all about participation numbers - OTW is not a growth sport (I think a shrinking one) and many drop it after school as it is hard to commit to the times and training. RA gets government funding and it is all about the numbers. They see OTE as an opportunity and it is much broader than racing. Community involvement, weight loss programs, rehab, better use of existing OTW facilities (where ergs are often idle for days), getting into gyms as well as talent identification for OTW are all part of it. Famously Graham Benton was an erger who got OTW and the AIRC identified Georgie Rowe (No pun there) who was second to Olenya B last year @6:40 and is now in the RA high performance program.
It is all words at the moment but they mean well - one executive said that they want to get the situation that when someone says they are a rower they get asked "indoor or outdoor?"
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by lancecampeau » February 28th, 2018, 9:51 pm

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Yesterday's session:
- 3010m @ 1:58.5 warmup / DF 195
- 5 mins treadmill walking
- 1000m paddle @ 2:39 / DF 140
- 2 min handle down
- 1000m sprint @ 1:41.2 / DF 140
- 6 mins treadmill walking
- 520m @ 2:00.2 end of workout / DF 140


Today's session:
- 14490m in 60m @ 2:04.2 / DF 140 / cold start
- 6 mins treadmill walk


187,145m rowed in Feb at an average pace of 2:15... my highest monthly total since I've started rowing in Jan 2017. However, my average pace has dropped off a bit... Last September I rowed 171,039 at an average pace of 2:08.7. I need to do more mid distance hard pieces!
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Erik A » February 28th, 2018, 11:11 pm

thats an interesting stat there Lance

i just did mine

137,239m at an avg of 2:03.5 splits

need to up those meters though
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by OtwSL » March 1st, 2018, 5:22 am

Good training everyone!

Yesterday:

New 30r20 PB.

30:00.0 7765m @1:55.9 r20
06:00.0 1539m @1:56.9 r20
12:00.0 1538m @1:57.0 r20
18:00.0 1552m @1:55.9 r20
24:00.0 1557m @1:55.6 r20
30:00.0 1580m @1:53.9 r21

Happy with that. Miles ahead of where I thought I would be back in January. That is an exactly 200m or a 4 split, PB from 7565m @1:58.9 which I set only 6 weeks ago.
Apparently my 2k should be 6:51.6 according to Paul's Law but I'd say 6:54-6 would make me happy.
Think all of my PBs need a major update now!
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by RWAGR » March 1st, 2018, 5:38 am

Great going Scott. Agree it’s time for some re-testing!
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5k: 18.18.0 (2020)
30': 8051 (2020)
10k: 38.04.7 (2020)

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