What Training Have You Done Today?
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
wed PM
2k @2:08
1500m @1:54
4x 100m/1'r @1:27
2k @2:08
1500m @1:54
4x 100m/1'r @1:27
Lindsay
69yo 93kg
Sydney Australia
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PBs (65y+) 1 min 349m, 500m 1:29.8, 1k 3:11.7 2k 6:47.4, 5km 18:07.9, 30' 7928m, 10k 37:57.2, 60' 15368m
69yo 93kg
Sydney Australia
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PBs (65y+) 1 min 349m, 500m 1:29.8, 1k 3:11.7 2k 6:47.4, 5km 18:07.9, 30' 7928m, 10k 37:57.2, 60' 15368m
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
I have no idea why, as low rates used to be bad for my back, but it didn't bother me at all this morning and even helped loosen it up. As soon as I started it felt better and my pace kept dropping with no twingesMartinSH4321 wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 4:56 amGood pace for the 500m, bad you had to bail out, lower back problems are so annoying. Wasn't the 5k pretty demanding for your lower back too at this low rating?Dangerscouse wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 3:30 amI started off with the hope of a 8 x 500m 2r as my lower back was a lot better after Pilates on Monday but after four reps it started to tighten up so I bailed out. All of them were r33 and averaged 1:37.4.
I then decided with one min rest to do a strapless 5k, which was intended to be 1:56/7 pace, but I got carried away and I was pulling 1:47 @ r21 for the last 100m
For some reason I'm finding lower rates a lot easier than usual and higher rates a bit of a struggle compared to normal. I'm not sure what to make of it, and if it's good or not. I assume it is as lower rates have always been my Achilles heel.
You did a lot of rate restricted training so I would estimate it's just an adaption to that, hard to say if good or not, but propably good for longer stuff when you can row the same pace at lower rating?!
I think I was concentrating on each stroke and preparing my core each time whereas the 500s were going at r33 so I was possibly losing some technique as I progressed. I generally don't rate over 30/31 and it doesn't sound much difference but I wonder if it was just a bit too uncontrolled this morning.
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Now at the tail end of a 13 day cold/flu... decided to battle it over the last 5 days with some uptempo workouts.
Friday - low rate 2K
2000m / 7:53.1 / 1:58.2 / DF 148 / SR 20 / SPI 10.6
Monday - My first serious attempt at a "rate ladder"
7 x 750m/1:00r / 5250m / 20:43.2 / 1:58.4 / DF 115 / SPI 9.59
SR: 20, 22, 24, 26, 24, 22, 20
Pace: 2:01.4, 1:59.1, 1:57, 1:55, 1:57, 1:59, 2:00.1
Tuesday - 3K with a target of 1:57.5 @ SPI 9.0 or higher
3000m / 11:31.4 / 1:55.2 / DF 135 / SR 23 / SPI 9.95
Friday - low rate 2K
2000m / 7:53.1 / 1:58.2 / DF 148 / SR 20 / SPI 10.6
Monday - My first serious attempt at a "rate ladder"
7 x 750m/1:00r / 5250m / 20:43.2 / 1:58.4 / DF 115 / SPI 9.59
SR: 20, 22, 24, 26, 24, 22, 20
Pace: 2:01.4, 1:59.1, 1:57, 1:55, 1:57, 1:59, 2:00.1
Tuesday - 3K with a target of 1:57.5 @ SPI 9.0 or higher
3000m / 11:31.4 / 1:55.2 / DF 135 / SR 23 / SPI 9.95
Male, 46, 6ft / 240 lbs, 183cm / 108 kg / Started erging in Jan 2017


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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
I think it's important to post our failures as well as our successes, so here goes:
I must have broken a record of sorts today.
Plan was a 12k steady. Body just didn't feel like it, so HD'd and tried something else, but turned out the body didn't fancy that either. HD2.
Thought perhaps I should rank a sprint at long last. Tried 1:38 for 500m, but couldn't get close to hanging on to that - HD3.
Perhaps 1min on the SkiErg, trying to get over 300m? Nope - HD (or, I suppose, HU).
Had another crack at 500m, this time at 1:42. I nearly made it, but, yes indeed ladies and gentlemen... HD number 5!
Should have bailed after the first HD, but I wanted to leave on a high. Not sure that quite worked out as I'd have liked!
The least remembered about today, the better!
I must have broken a record of sorts today.
Plan was a 12k steady. Body just didn't feel like it, so HD'd and tried something else, but turned out the body didn't fancy that either. HD2.
Thought perhaps I should rank a sprint at long last. Tried 1:38 for 500m, but couldn't get close to hanging on to that - HD3.
Perhaps 1min on the SkiErg, trying to get over 300m? Nope - HD (or, I suppose, HU).
Had another crack at 500m, this time at 1:42. I nearly made it, but, yes indeed ladies and gentlemen... HD number 5!
Should have bailed after the first HD, but I wanted to leave on a high. Not sure that quite worked out as I'd have liked!

The least remembered about today, the better!
50 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=298m; 500m=1:42.4; 1k=TBC; 2k=7:43.8; 5k=20:34.8; 6k=TBC; 30'=TBC; 10k=42:50; 60'=TBC; HM=NGTFH
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=298m; 500m=1:42.4; 1k=TBC; 2k=7:43.8; 5k=20:34.8; 6k=TBC; 30'=TBC; 10k=42:50; 60'=TBC; HM=NGTFH
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
We all have days where nothing works like planned, but 5 HD is really specialmax_ratcliffe wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:26 amI think it's important to post our failures as well as our successes, so here goes:
I must have broken a record of sorts today.
Plan was a 12k steady. Body just didn't feel like it, so HD'd and tried something else, but turned out the body didn't fancy that either. HD2.
Thought perhaps I should rank a sprint at long last. Tried 1:38 for 500m, but couldn't get close to hanging on to that - HD3.
Perhaps 1min on the SkiErg, trying to get over 300m? Nope - HD (or, I suppose, HU).
Had another crack at 500m, this time at 1:42. I nearly made it, but, yes indeed ladies and gentlemen... HD number 5!
Should have bailed after the first HD, but I wanted to leave on a high. Not sure that quite worked out as I'd have liked!![]()
The least remembered about today, the better!

Don't overrate it, sh*t happens, next training will be better!
And thanks for sharing this, next time I have a shi*ty training I'll hopefully remember your posting and think "It could have been worse"

1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 176
LP: 1:06 100m: 14.0 1': 387m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
RHR: 43, MHR: 176
LP: 1:06 100m: 14.0 1': 387m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
That's a really good session Alex. Don't worry about not doing an 8th one. Sometimes you have to push yourself to find out what you can do and you made a decent improvement in speed here. Good stuff.winniewinser wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2019, 4:35 pmInterval row session after work....should have been 8x500m/2'R but only just managed 7. Target was 1:44/45 (2km-4') but I dug myself a hole on the first interval with some ego pacing and paid the price later on. Nearly didn't start the 7th but found something and ended that one feeling rather sick .
Equal measures of satisfaction for the 7 I did manage and dissapointment at the lack of an 8th....I will repeat this.
1:43.4@30
1:42.7@30
1:42.7@30
1:42.5@30
1:42.2@31
1:42.0@32
1:43.0@32
Avg 1:42.6@30
Avg HR 145, Max 176
I have to improve my pacing to start on a more achievable level for the entire series of intervals. Also need to improve my fitness as I was spent by the last one![]()
Age: 48 Height: 6ft 4 ins: HWT PB: 1000:3:19.1 2000:6:55.9 5000: 17:58.6 30mins: 8016m Started rowing in June 2019
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
4 x 6 minutes/4 mins rest
1651m @ 1.49.0
1664m @ 1.48.1
1674m @ 1.47.5
1689m @ 1.46.5
Pretty pleased with this. Felt good.
1651m @ 1.49.0
1664m @ 1.48.1
1674m @ 1.47.5
1689m @ 1.46.5
Pretty pleased with this. Felt good.
Age: 48 Height: 6ft 4 ins: HWT PB: 1000:3:19.1 2000:6:55.9 5000: 17:58.6 30mins: 8016m Started rowing in June 2019
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Very good Phil, esp. the last one looks very hard!philjoakley wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:53 am4 x 6 minutes/4 mins rest
1651m @ 1.49.0
1664m @ 1.48.1
1674m @ 1.47.5
1689m @ 1.46.5
Pretty pleased with this. Felt good.
1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 176
LP: 1:06 100m: 14.0 1': 387m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
RHR: 43, MHR: 176
LP: 1:06 100m: 14.0 1': 387m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Thanks Martin. Last one was very tough but was pleased that I could still push through it. Good 2k training.MartinSH4321 wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 9:02 amVery good Phil, esp. the last one looks very hard!philjoakley wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:53 am4 x 6 minutes/4 mins rest
1651m @ 1.49.0
1664m @ 1.48.1
1674m @ 1.47.5
1689m @ 1.46.5
Pretty pleased with this. Felt good.
Age: 48 Height: 6ft 4 ins: HWT PB: 1000:3:19.1 2000:6:55.9 5000: 17:58.6 30mins: 8016m Started rowing in June 2019
- winniewinser
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Thx Philphiljoakley wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:51 amThat's a really good session Alex. Don't worry about not doing an 8th one. Sometimes you have to push yourself to find out what you can do and you made a decent improvement in speed here. Good stuff.
Those are pretty splendid figures too. I'm down for 4x1500m later this week but will be more in the 1:48-1:50 target area. Slightly more bearable than 3x2000m....just!philjoakley wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:53 am4 x 6 minutes/4 mins rest
1651m @ 1.49.0
1664m @ 1.48.1
1674m @ 1.47.5
1689m @ 1.46.5
Pretty pleased with this. Felt good.
Alex, LWTM, 6'2" 49yo, 100m 17.7, 1min 340m, 500m 1:31.9, 1km 3:16.3, 4min 1212m, 2km 6:50.2, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 22:03.6, 30' 7958m, 10km 38:18.6, 60' 15,286m, HM 1:24:08.5, FM 3:08:12.8
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Tough session Max.....always another day and at least you didn't just jack it in totally after the first HD.max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:26 amI think it's important to post our failures as well as our successes, so here goes:
I must have broken a record of sorts today.
Plan was a 12k steady. Body just didn't feel like it, so HD'd and tried something else, but turned out the body didn't fancy that either. HD2.
Thought perhaps I should rank a sprint at long last. Tried 1:38 for 500m, but couldn't get close to hanging on to that - HD3.
Perhaps 1min on the SkiErg, trying to get over 300m? Nope - HD (or, I suppose, HU).
Had another crack at 500m, this time at 1:42. I nearly made it, but, yes indeed ladies and gentlemen... HD number 5!
Should have bailed after the first HD, but I wanted to leave on a high. Not sure that quite worked out as I'd have liked!![]()
The least remembered about today, the better!
As you say learning from days like these is going to more important for future efforts. I have recently seen plenty of the "big fellas" on Insta failing to complete intervals and bailing so it happens to everyone at some time.
I often get to the end of a difficult or physically draining interval session and wonder why I am punishing myself doing this. It's supposed to be fun by my competitive nature makes me want to be the best I can. I am now starting to think that best will only come with further lifestyle changes and an extra 10kg min

Alex, LWTM, 6'2" 49yo, 100m 17.7, 1min 340m, 500m 1:31.9, 1km 3:16.3, 4min 1212m, 2km 6:50.2, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 22:03.6, 30' 7958m, 10km 38:18.6, 60' 15,286m, HM 1:24:08.5, FM 3:08:12.8
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Hahahaha, it is important to post the good and the bad, but this is another level. Having said that I'm sure we all could have had days like this, but we have just given up a lot earlier. Trying five times is great perseverance of nothing else!max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:26 amI think it's important to post our failures as well as our successes, so here goes:
I must have broken a record of sorts today.
Plan was a 12k steady. Body just didn't feel like it, so HD'd and tried something else, but turned out the body didn't fancy that either. HD2.
Thought perhaps I should rank a sprint at long last. Tried 1:38 for 500m, but couldn't get close to hanging on to that - HD3.
Perhaps 1min on the SkiErg, trying to get over 300m? Nope - HD (or, I suppose, HU).
Had another crack at 500m, this time at 1:42. I nearly made it, but, yes indeed ladies and gentlemen... HD number 5!
Should have bailed after the first HD, but I wanted to leave on a high. Not sure that quite worked out as I'd have liked!![]()
The least remembered about today, the better!
If I failed at steady state, I would 99% of the time not try anything else as this is a good barometer for how you feel, due to the relative ease of the effort, unless it was just pure boredom that took hold?
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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2,000m PB: 9m35.6s | 5,000m PB: 21m30.9s
2,000m PB: 9m35.6s | 5,000m PB: 21m30.9s
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Agree with Stu - multiple HDs were just because you already spent energy and it wasn't the day to test stuff. Just move on and forget it.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 10:19 amHahahaha, it is important to post the good and the bad, but this is another level. Having said that I'm sure we all could have had days like this, but we have just given up a lot earlier. Trying five times is great perseverance of nothing else!max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 8:26 amI think it's important to post our failures as well as our successes, so here goes:
I must have broken a record of sorts today.
Plan was a 12k steady. Body just didn't feel like it, so HD'd and tried something else, but turned out the body didn't fancy that either. HD2.
Thought perhaps I should rank a sprint at long last. Tried 1:38 for 500m, but couldn't get close to hanging on to that - HD3.
Perhaps 1min on the SkiErg, trying to get over 300m? Nope - HD (or, I suppose, HU).
Had another crack at 500m, this time at 1:42. I nearly made it, but, yes indeed ladies and gentlemen... HD number 5!
Should have bailed after the first HD, but I wanted to leave on a high. Not sure that quite worked out as I'd have liked!![]()
The least remembered about today, the better!
If I failed at steady state, I would 99% of the time not try anything else as this is a good barometer for how you feel, due to the relative ease of the effort, unless it was just pure boredom that took hold?
52 yo, 6'3" 200#
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.9, 1K - 2:59.4, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.4, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8366m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:47:46
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.9, 1K - 2:59.4, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.4, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8366m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:47:46
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
I am not sure what to make of the rate issues either. I have always thought you were just better with the high rate and low rate was a struggle which is different than me. So, for that to get turned around some seems odd. Would be interesting to see if you did a TT for a longer distance would you fall back to higher rating or use a lower rate. Maybe its a perception thing and you are getting better with lower rates so the higher rates just seem like more energy?Dangerscouse wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 7:48 amI have no idea why, as low rates used to be bad for my back, but it didn't bother me at all this morning and even helped loosen it up. As soon as I started it felt better and my pace kept dropping with no twingesMartinSH4321 wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 4:56 amGood pace for the 500m, bad you had to bail out, lower back problems are so annoying. Wasn't the 5k pretty demanding for your lower back too at this low rating?Dangerscouse wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2019, 3:30 amI started off with the hope of a 8 x 500m 2r as my lower back was a lot better after Pilates on Monday but after four reps it started to tighten up so I bailed out. All of them were r33 and averaged 1:37.4.
I then decided with one min rest to do a strapless 5k, which was intended to be 1:56/7 pace, but I got carried away and I was pulling 1:47 @ r21 for the last 100m
For some reason I'm finding lower rates a lot easier than usual and higher rates a bit of a struggle compared to normal. I'm not sure what to make of it, and if it's good or not. I assume it is as lower rates have always been my Achilles heel.
You did a lot of rate restricted training so I would estimate it's just an adaption to that, hard to say if good or not, but propably good for longer stuff when you can row the same pace at lower rating?!
I think I was concentrating on each stroke and preparing my core each time whereas the 500s were going at r33 so I was possibly losing some technique as I progressed. I generally don't rate over 30/31 and it doesn't sound much difference but I wonder if it was just a bit too uncontrolled this morning.
52 yo, 6'3" 200#
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.9, 1K - 2:59.4, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.4, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8366m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:47:46
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.9, 1K - 2:59.4, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.4, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8366m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:47:46