First sub6 skierg 2k

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by johnlvs2run » February 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm

Pace her weight is calculating the watts per kilogram and then converting to pace based on a weight that's the same for everyone.
For example, Marshall's Skierg 2k at 225 pounds is roughly equivalent to Henrick Stephansen's 5:56.7 lightweight world record on the rowing machine. The lightweight division or rowing is the only weight limited division, so that's probably the best one to compare to overall.

Pace per weight applies to all of the Concept2 skiing, cycling and rowing machines.
Personally I check my weight daily, and calculate my pace per weight for each of my time trials for comparison.

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by hjs » February 23rd, 2020, 4:50 am

johnlvs2run wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm
Pace her weight is calculating the watts per kilogram and then converting to pace based on a weight that's the same for everyone.
For example, Marshall's Skierg 2k at 225 pounds is roughly equivalent to Henrick Stephansen's 5:56.7 lightweight world record on the rowing machine. The lightweight division or rowing is the only weight limited division, so that's probably the best one to compare to overall.

Pace per weight applies to all of the Concept2 skiing, cycling and rowing machines.
Personally I check my weight daily, and calculate my pace per weight for each of my time trials for comparison.
Re comparison different concept2 machines, that can,t be really done, due to the different motions which do cost energy.
On the rower the most, going up and down the rail, energy that does not go into the chain.
The skierg, the hip hinge/squat. Bit less compared to the rower.
Bike, body sits still, so hardly any waisted energy.

Re lightweight. On water thats 72kg on erg 75.

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by Gammmmo » February 25th, 2020, 10:35 am

hjs wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 7:22 am
James Hall, (yes the brother from Eddy)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNfxBvRNdf8
Looks like another one with the "Hercules gene". Yes, that's a thing.
Paul, 49M, 5'11" 82kg (sprint PBs HWT), ex bike time trialler.
Deadlift=185kg, LP=1:15, 100m=15.7s, 1min=350m Image
Targets: 355m+ 1min, 1:27(500m), 3:11(1K), bench 2 plates, squat 3 plates

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by hjs » February 25th, 2020, 12:12 pm

Gammmmo wrote:
February 25th, 2020, 10:35 am
hjs wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 7:22 am
James Hall, (yes the brother from Eddy)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNfxBvRNdf8
Looks like another one with the "Hercules gene". Yes, that's a thing.
Tad smaller, Eddy is 188, James 181 ish if I am not mistaken. But indeed the same kind of built. There is a third brother, he erged on the rower, believe 6.15 ish. Which was made “fun” of ofcourse by the other two. He is the smallest of the bunch, but still has that same build.

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by hjs » February 29th, 2020, 6:09 pm

johnlvs2run wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm
Pace her weight is calculating the watts per kilogram and then converting to pace based on a weight that's the same for everyone.
For example, Marshall's Skierg 2k at 225 pounds is roughly equivalent to Henrick Stephansen's 5:56.7 lightweight world record on the rowing machine. The lightweight division or rowing is the only weight limited division, so that's probably the best one to compare to overall.

Pace per weight applies to all of the Concept2 skiing, cycling and rowing machines.
Personally I check my weight daily, and calculate my pace per weight for each of my time trials for comparison.
Jason pulled a 1.38 10k to end the series. Some serious fitness. :shock:

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by Dangerscouse » March 1st, 2020, 3:42 am

hjs wrote:
February 29th, 2020, 6:09 pm

Jason pulled a 1.38 10k to end the series. Some serious fitness. :shock:
Yep, he really is a natural born athlete
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by hjs » March 1st, 2020, 5:07 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
March 1st, 2020, 3:42 am
hjs wrote:
February 29th, 2020, 6:09 pm

Jason pulled a 1.38 10k to end the series. Some serious fitness. :shock:
Yep, he really is a natural born athlete
He makes everybody else looking like a joke now on the skierg. And its not that he trains like a madman, it comes so rapidly.

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by Dangerscouse » March 1st, 2020, 5:25 am

hjs wrote:
February 25th, 2020, 12:12 pm
Gammmmo wrote:
February 25th, 2020, 10:35 am
hjs wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 7:22 am
James Hall, (yes the brother from Eddy)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNfxBvRNdf8
Looks like another one with the "Hercules gene". Yes, that's a thing.
Tad smaller, Eddy is 188, James 181 ish if I am not mistaken. But indeed the same kind of built. There is a third brother, he erged on the rower, believe 6.15 ish. Which was made “fun” of ofcourse by the other two. He is the smallest of the bunch, but still has that same build.
The third brother, Alex, is a Team Oarsome member and he has lost most of his erging fitness atm, but could get it back quickly enough if he trained.

He also has the British U19 HWT record for 100km at 6hrs 48
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by hjs » May 8th, 2020, 5:53 am

https://log.concept2.com/profile/1225966/log

Fm 146.5..... :P the man keeps on going

And 5.52 2k row

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by MartinSH4321 » May 8th, 2020, 6:05 am

hjs wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 5:53 am
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1225966/log

Fm 146.5..... :P the man keeps on going

And 5.52 2k row
Yeah, he holds every skierg WR for 5k and longer in his age category.
https://www.concept2.com/skierg/motivat ... ale&age=30

rowing also super strong, his spring series results are pretty impressive :)
1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 176
LP: 1:06 100m: 14.0 1': 387m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by hjs » May 8th, 2020, 6:08 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 6:05 am
hjs wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 5:53 am
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1225966/log

Fm 146.5..... :P the man keeps on going

And 5.52 2k row
Yeah, he holds every skierg WR for 5k and longer in his age category.
https://www.concept2.com/skierg/motivat ... ale&age=30

rowing also super strong, his spring series results are pretty impressive :)
Overall sportsman. On the skierg a class on his own. Nobody can touch him. Apart from the pure sprinting.

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by Dangerscouse » May 8th, 2020, 7:18 am

hjs wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 6:08 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 6:05 am
hjs wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 5:53 am
https://log.concept2.com/profile/1225966/log

Fm 146.5..... :P the man keeps on going

And 5.52 2k row
Yeah, he holds every skierg WR for 5k and longer in his age category.
https://www.concept2.com/skierg/motivat ... ale&age=30

rowing also super strong, his spring series results are pretty impressive :)
Overall sportsman. On the skierg a class on his own. Nobody can touch him. Apart from the pure sprinting.
He really is a immense force of nature. That steady HR on the Skierg FM is beyond belief
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:44:04; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by JMac » May 8th, 2020, 2:01 pm

Interesting that him and James Hall are both ex-props. Seems rugby guys transition well to erging. Would be interesting to see some ex-second row guys train erg seriously.
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100m: 13.6 | 500m: 1:17.8 | 2k: 6:29 | 5k: 18:07 | 10k: 37:45

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by max_ratcliffe » May 9th, 2020, 7:59 am

JMac wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 2:01 pm
Interesting that him and James Hall are both ex-props. Seems rugby guys transition well to erging. Would be interesting to see some ex-second row guys train erg seriously.
I'm surprised that props have the engine to be that good. Since substitutions they have been able to focus even more on strength and lots of props don't last the 80'.

Andy Ripley was a world record holder and apparently nearly made the boat race team at 49, but I don't know of any other top class rugby players who moved to the erg.
50 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=298m; 500m=1:42.4; 1k=TBC; 2k=7:43.8; 5k=20:34.8; 6k=TBC; 30'=TBC; 10k=42:50; 60'=TBC; HM=NGTFH

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Re: First sub6 skierg 2k

Post by hjs » November 23rd, 2020, 10:28 am

5k 135.6 from Jason

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDCFlvNY4vk

And 2.41 1k from James

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHoCT2wF5rb ... ie3exjf6dh

Soon a battle over 2k between the 2? Both ready to break the current record.

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