Weight equivalent on pull down

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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by hjs » October 20th, 2020, 9:54 am

Eric308 wrote:
October 20th, 2020, 9:24 am
Thank you all for the positive feedback. Heading to the gym, and plan on breaking up my routines a bit. I can't row anymore after over 20 years due to an inguinal hernia. I was lucky to have had the Skierg which I hated at first. I'm #1 in the US (70-79) now for the 1:00 sprint @249m. hjs..please don't think I don't heed your advice. You are my hero on here. Cheers!
Cheers Eric, its always tough to “read” when its only written what people post/think. And giving advice or tips is not straightforward.
Also, age is serious factor, not that I am a pup myself but still, I can’t comment on bring your age. And people in their 20 s really don’t have a clue what age does.

And 249m. Get that extra 1.

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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by Eric308 » October 20th, 2020, 10:13 am

hjs...Thanks for that. You are the last person I want to alienate! Yeah....1 more meter! Maybe I'll try today...who knows, maybe I'll hit 260! Cheers to you!

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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by Allan Olesen » October 21st, 2020, 4:52 am

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October 20th, 2020, 5:18 am
See the openingspost for this thread. “Cable pushdown” and later on only talk about the triceps.
His question had multiple angles. I replied to one of them, and it should be obvious, which one I replied to.

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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by hjs » October 21st, 2020, 4:59 am

Allan Olesen wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 4:52 am
hjs wrote:
October 20th, 2020, 5:18 am
See the openingspost for this thread. “Cable pushdown” and later on only talk about the triceps.
His question had multiple angles. I replied to one of them, and it should be obvious, which one I replied to.
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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by mict450 » October 22nd, 2020, 2:43 am

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October 20th, 2020, 4:21 am

On the skierg you only mimic the trunk push and even this is wrong. Not like on snow backwards, but a vertical move. Making the skierg much more a fitness machine, and far from a ski trainer.
Truth Henry. But if one wants to add a more backward motion to the poling stroke, one just needs to stand a few feet farther away from the skierg.
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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by hjs » October 22nd, 2020, 3:56 am

mict450 wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 2:43 am
hjs wrote:
October 20th, 2020, 4:21 am

On the skierg you only mimic the trunk push and even this is wrong. Not like on snow backwards, but a vertical move. Making the skierg much more a fitness machine, and far from a ski trainer.
Truth Henry. But if one wants to add a more backward motion to the poling stroke, one just needs to stand a few feet farther away from the skierg.
Helps a little bit, but does change little. Motion will still be far from the close to horizontal move on snow.
I have seen guys put a band around the waist that pulled them backwards. This adds more hipaction to the motion. Ofcourse not helping the pm numbers. But as training for outside snowwork maybe usefull.

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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by mict450 » October 22nd, 2020, 4:30 am

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October 22nd, 2020, 3:56 am

Ofcourse not helping the pm numbers. But as training for outside snowwork maybe usefull.
Agreed, mimicking on-snow technique would result in slower splits on the skierg.
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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by hjs » October 22nd, 2020, 4:39 am

mict450 wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 4:30 am
hjs wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 3:56 am

Ofcourse not helping the pm numbers. But as training for outside snowwork maybe usefull.
Agreed, mimicking on-snow technique would result in slower splits on the skierg.
On the row erg, the best scores are from Real rowers, apart from the sprints. On the skierg does Topguys don’t even bother, its a fitnessmachine to me. Not so much a machine that mimics on snow ski.

And for the concept2, over here The Netherlands, a different, more expensive rower is now the Standard. Won’t name tge brand, but this one has more options on the settings. Getting closer to otw rowing.

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Re: Weight equivalent on pull down

Post by Eric308 » October 23rd, 2020, 11:56 am

Well, I modified my daily routines due to some good guidance here. I am now doing a 5K on alternate days, with 2X100m 25 lb medicine ball chest carries post. No weight training. On the other days I'm doing only a 3K with my normal weight workout. I think it will be more efficient. I also failed to mentioned I've got a partially torn left triceps that was misdiagnosed and never repaired. I figure I've lost at least 25% there. Thanks again for all the help!
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