Yes, that's fair enough. And I do agree the supplement industry is just that - a business, so they'll try to flog people all sorts they don't need. As an aside, I think there are an awful lot of "supplements" that do not work....but there are some that absolutely do work. And no, I'm not talking about dodgy banned stuff.Ollie Russell wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2019, 6:55 amOffcourse, just wanted to outline some of the basics for the original poster. I have noticed alot of gym/fitness newbies can often put an overemphasis on supplements where they are either not needed or a downright waste of money. I was a bodybuilder for a little over a decade and i shudder at the money i threw away on "fart-powder" supplements when i first started. Ive been out the gym for few years, last summer i started training again and i was surprised to see every man and his dog now seem to have gym bags full of potions; pre workout, post workout and intra workout. I read his question as though he thought a protein drink would assist his recovery is some kind of special way...which it would, but only in the same way that a tuna pasta eaten hours later would.
What I disagreed with was the underlying sentiment by some that whey shakes serve no purpose to no one. That would ignore the advantages cited and be more akin to burying one's head in the sand. I do understand though that some may find "honour" in bread and water (to coin a pro cycling expression).

So do you think this was just down to giving up whey shakes?Andrew Shuck wrote: ↑June 2nd, 2019, 7:21 amHi, I stopped using shakes around 5 years ago...I'm now leaner with more shape to muscles and vascularity.. Don't bother, and be financially better off.
However my wife informed me i get through 24 litres of whole milk in week, and nearly a kilo of Meridian crunchy peanut butter.You know the big tub from Holland & Barrett, sometimes Aldi.
That peanut butter is excellent in smoothies.
