Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

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Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by paulduncan1 » October 21st, 2020, 8:48 am

Hi all

I have had supraventricular tachycardia first diagnosed around six years ago. I was wondering if anyone else has this and how they go about modifying their training programs. I struggle at times to keep below certain HR thresholds which messes up training at times.

I would be interested to hear what others who have the condition are doing.

Paul

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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by Citroen » October 21st, 2020, 9:00 am

What does your cardiologist say? Have you asked her/him?

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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by paulduncan1 » October 21st, 2020, 9:07 am

He tells me it is benign
and he has had a couple of attempts at correcting it but it is too near the sinus node to do anything about it. I see the cardiology team once a year to have a review.

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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by mict450 » October 21st, 2020, 12:44 pm

So apparently ablation is out? And meds are not working? Doesn't sound like a fib, just atrial tach? Hard one...keep causes of atrial stretch down...ditch caffeine totally, no stress (yeah, right!), no sharp heavy intensity work. Stick w/low intensity, SS work, UT2, nothing more stressful. Are you symptomatic w/episodes of SVT? I would guess some but not to the point of chest pain, weakness, SOB. Otherwise, your cardio guy wouldn't characterize it as benign.
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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by paulduncan1 » October 21st, 2020, 2:38 pm

I have had two attempts at ablation and beta blockers don't agree with me. light work UT2 does not generally bring it on but interval training and harder intensity sessions do. no pain or weakness but do get episodes of SVT.

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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by mict450 » October 21st, 2020, 5:22 pm

paulduncan1 wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 2:38 pm
light work UT2 does not generally bring it on but interval training and harder intensity sessions do.
Paul, I think you just wrote your own prescription for exercise. Since atrial tach threshold starts at approx 160/min, I would stay far, far away from that level. Stay solidly in UT2 territory.

What's your age, UT2, UT1, AT heart rate bands?
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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by paulduncan1 » October 22nd, 2020, 4:12 am

mict450 wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 5:22 pm

Paul, I think you just wrote your own prescription for exercise. Since atrial tach threshold starts at approx 160/min, I would stay far, far away from that level. Stay solidly in UT2 territory.

What's your age, UT2, UT1, AT heart rate bands?
UT 121 - 137
AT 137 - 153
I AM 59

Sometimes the palpitations come on when I am doing interval training going from low SR to medium SR.

What do you mean when you say the atrial tach threshold starts at approx 160/min?

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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by mitchel674 » October 22nd, 2020, 2:09 pm

SVT is often precipitated by rapid increases in heart rate. Quick intervals would be much more likely to cause SVT than a long, steady row. Another factor for many is dehydration. Please try to keep yourself well-hydrated when training.
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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by mict450 » October 22nd, 2020, 3:37 pm

paulduncan1 wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 4:12 am

UT 121 - 137
AT 137 - 153
I AM 59

Sometimes the palpitations come on when I am doing interval training going from low SR to medium SR.

What do you mean when you say the atrial tach threshold starts at approx 160/min?
Just being on the conservative side of heart rate. There's a big difference between sinus tach vs atrial tach, where the low threshold for A tach is 160 bpm for clinical purposes.

Don't know how performance minded you are....for health purposes, staying in the aerobic zone is adequate. If you want to take your fitness to a higher level, I would incorporate some gentle fartlek training, going into the UT1 zone & mebbe into the lower levels of AT zone. As always, start conservatively. Consult with your team of cardio guys.
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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by paulduncan1 » October 23rd, 2020, 3:43 am

mict450 wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 3:37 pm

Just being on the conservative side of heart rate. There's a big difference between sinus tach vs atrial tach, where the low threshold for A tach is 160 bpm for clinical purposes.

Don't know how performance minded you are....for health purposes, staying in the aerobic zone is adequate. If you want to take your fitness to a higher level, I would incorporate some gentle fartlek training, going into the UT1 zone & mebbe into the lower levels of AT zone. As always, start conservatively. Consult with your team of cardio guys.
I think high intensity training is behind me now unfortunately. The mind is willing but the body suggests otherwise. Thanks for the advice
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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by mict450 » October 23rd, 2020, 5:15 pm

paulduncan1 wrote:
October 23rd, 2020, 3:43 am

I think high intensity training is behind me now unfortunately. The mind is willing but the body suggests otherwise. Thanks for the advice
I sympathize with you since I'm in the same boat. Age wins out in the end, whether sooner or later. Think I'll go & take a nap, then watch "Wheel of Fortune".
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Re: Training with supra ventricular tachycardia

Post by MiddleAgeCRISIS » October 23rd, 2020, 7:03 pm

paulduncan1 wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 8:48 am
Hi all

I have had supraventricular tachycardia first diagnosed around six years ago. I was wondering if anyone else has this and how they go about modifying their training programs. I struggle at times to keep below certain HR thresholds which messes up training at times.

I would be interested to hear what others who have the condition are doing.

Paul
I am probably approaching this from a different angle but hopefully its beneficial.

Historically ive been an anaerobic sprinter kinda chap and bulky. I porked out a bit and decided to shift some timber.

Ive got a track record of pulling muscles, getting gout from exercise and weight loss. So i decided to do a load of rowing at really low intensity.

I started with a terrible technique and then worked my way through stronger legs, stronger arms , stronger hip flexors , and now stronger abs. incrementally building technique.

all with heart rates of 93 to 107 .

My technique is getting there now as i now am focusing on swinging back.

I guess the salient point is my heart rate has dramatically reduced at higher intensity rows by about 20 bpm. So i'm under 120 bpm for 2.20 splits.

I think ive done a version of maffetone essentially. Ive also done strength work of late with some simple trx rows.

all the best.

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