Forearm Soreness

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Forearm Soreness

Post by winniewinser » December 16th, 2020, 2:28 am

I've noticed, probably since SRIC/BRIC, that my forearms are getting really sore after any sessions at the moment. It feels muscular more than anything and is mainly around my elbow area. Working from my watch to my elbow the muscle on the top is tight/sore.

I don't feel like I'm gripping too hard, but undoubtedly did during the 2k races. Short of taking more rest any thoughts on what is causing it?

If may be that the increase in sessions combined with recent racing is the problem but I never had issues prior to SRIC.

Thoughts?

TIA
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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by MartinSH4321 » December 16th, 2020, 3:23 am

I had about the same problem about 2 years ago, my right forearm got overstressed and I had to almost pause for a few weeks.
I estimate it's your increased hard training, more strain and less recovery.
I I were you I would skip the next hard training and have 2 rest days to see how it feels, better a short break now than a long break later. You can partly switch to cycling or running till it's 100% OK. Soft stretching and massage also helped me.
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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by winniewinser » December 16th, 2020, 4:14 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
December 16th, 2020, 3:23 am
I had about the same problem about 2 years ago, my right forearm got overstressed and I had to almost pause for a few weeks.
I estimate it's your increased hard training, more strain and less recovery.
I I were you I would skip the next hard training and have 2 rest days to see how it feels, better a short break now than a long break later. You can partly switch to cycling or running till it's 100% OK. Soft stretching and massage also helped me.
Thanks Martin.....rest day today and then not rowing again til tomorrow night so will see how it feels before that.

It's a tricky area to stretch.
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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by MartinSH4321 » December 16th, 2020, 4:33 am

1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 176
LP: 1:06 100m: 14.0 1': 387m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:51
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by winniewinser » December 16th, 2020, 5:57 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
December 16th, 2020, 4:33 am
https://www.wikihow.fitness/Stretch-Your-Forearms
I like number 2 and 3 :)
Awesome thanks....3 is definitely a killer. will introduce more of those each day.
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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by Cant Climb » December 16th, 2020, 10:24 am

I've had this issue over the years and still do. PT is the only thing that works for me. Light forearm PT, it helps get blood into the area so it can heal, recover and strengthen. If you end up with a major flare up like i've had, it can be a bugger to completely get rid of.

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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by winniewinser » December 17th, 2020, 4:33 am

Cant Climb wrote:
December 16th, 2020, 10:24 am
I've had this issue over the years and still do. PT is the only thing that works for me. Light forearm PT, it helps get blood into the area so it can heal, recover and strengthen. If you end up with a major flare up like i've had, it can be a bugger to completely get rid of.
Thanks.

I stretched a lot yesterday and will continue to do that.

I have noticed that it's also painful around my elbow joint.
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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by mict450 » December 17th, 2020, 5:11 am

Thumb side would be tennis elbow.....little finger side, golfers elbow. Mine ocassionally flares up....anti-inflammatory meds, ice & wearing an elbow sleeve helps. Erging? Best to rest it, but if you must....cut volume & intensity, lower drag factor, change grip. I prefer thumbs on top of handles. Underhand grip also works.
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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by Cant Climb » December 17th, 2020, 9:04 am

winniewinser wrote:
December 17th, 2020, 4:33 am
Thanks.

I stretched a lot yesterday and will continue to do that.

I have noticed that it's also painful around my elbow joint.
One other thing - years ago when I had this pain initially I switched my grip to have thumb on top. Helps a lot. That was a suggestion from the members on the old C2 Forum.

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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by winniewinser » December 17th, 2020, 3:35 pm

Cant Climb wrote:
December 17th, 2020, 9:04 am
winniewinser wrote:
December 17th, 2020, 4:33 am
Thanks.

I stretched a lot yesterday and will continue to do that.

I have noticed that it's also painful around my elbow joint.
One other thing - years ago when I had this pain initially I switched my grip to have thumb on top. Helps a lot. That was a suggestion from the members on the old C2 Forum.
Thx...will try that
Alex, LWTM, 6'2" 48yo, 100m 17.7, 1min 340m, 500m 1:31.9, 1km 3:16.3, 2km 6:53.0, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 22:20.4, 30' 7958m, 10km 38:18.6, 60' 15,286m, HM 1:24:08.5, FM 3:08:12.8

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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by GreenStratMan » January 12th, 2021, 4:56 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85dpe9MeRik

That kind of issue is often trigger point related.
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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by Tsnor » January 13th, 2021, 3:14 pm

winniewinser wrote:
December 16th, 2020, 2:28 am
I've noticed, probably since SRIC/BRIC, that my forearms are getting really sore after any sessions at the moment. It feels muscular more than anything and is mainly around my elbow area. Working from my watch to my elbow the muscle on the top is tight/sore.

I don't feel like I'm gripping too hard, but undoubtedly did during the 2k races. Short of taking more rest any thoughts on what is causing it?
Was watching a video yesterday talking about final sprints in a 2K. The people were pulling under 1:20, and they were (1) short stroking their knees and (2) pulling way early with their arms to get an earlier catch. At 40+ strokes/min the chain was bouncing so most (not all) needed the early arm pull then they held their arm angle bent throughout the drive.

Any chance you were doing heavy duty sprinting at SRIC/BRIC ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J5rcyZMTuw

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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by winniewinser » January 14th, 2021, 5:11 am

Tsnor wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 3:14 pm
winniewinser wrote:
December 16th, 2020, 2:28 am
I've noticed, probably since SRIC/BRIC, that my forearms are getting really sore after any sessions at the moment. It feels muscular more than anything and is mainly around my elbow area. Working from my watch to my elbow the muscle on the top is tight/sore.

I don't feel like I'm gripping too hard, but undoubtedly did during the 2k races. Short of taking more rest any thoughts on what is causing it?
Was watching a video yesterday talking about final sprints in a 2K. The people were pulling under 1:20, and they were (1) short stroking their knees and (2) pulling way early with their arms to get an earlier catch. At 40+ strokes/min the chain was bouncing so most (not all) needed the early arm pull then they held their arm angle bent throughout the drive.

Any chance you were doing heavy duty sprinting at SRIC/BRIC ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J5rcyZMTuw
Yep.....BRIC was an all out fight at the end and I was holding on, literally, for dear life! So no doubt that may be part of the issues. I've also been doing quite a lot of fast sprint intervals that need a similar approach.

I've been icing it with a wine cooler collar :wink: ......useful shape for your arms. Also been rolling it daily and it seems to be improving.

Thx
Alex, LWTM, 6'2" 48yo, 100m 17.7, 1min 340m, 500m 1:31.9, 1km 3:16.3, 2km 6:53.0, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 22:20.4, 30' 7958m, 10km 38:18.6, 60' 15,286m, HM 1:24:08.5, FM 3:08:12.8

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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by Dangerscouse » January 14th, 2021, 12:21 pm

winniewinser wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 5:11 am
Yep.....BRIC was an all out fight at the end and I was holding on, literally, for dear life! So no doubt that may be part of the issues. I've also been doing quite a lot of fast sprint intervals that need a similar approach.

I've been icing it with a wine cooler collar :wink: ......useful shape for your arms. Also been rolling it daily and it seems to be improving.

Thx
Have you got a massage gun? Amazon do some good deals, and I got one for about £45 and it's great. My forearm was starting to hurt a bit a week or two ago, and it really helped. Obviously, it won't be much help if it's a strain
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Re: Forearm Soreness

Post by winniewinser » January 14th, 2021, 12:22 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 12:21 pm
winniewinser wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 5:11 am
Yep.....BRIC was an all out fight at the end and I was holding on, literally, for dear life! So no doubt that may be part of the issues. I've also been doing quite a lot of fast sprint intervals that need a similar approach.

I've been icing it with a wine cooler collar :wink: ......useful shape for your arms. Also been rolling it daily and it seems to be improving.

Thx
Have you got a massage gun? Amazon do some good deals, and I got one for about £45 and it's great. My forearm was starting to hurt a bit a week or two ago, and it really helped. Obviously, it won't be much help if it's a strain
Was actually looking to get one of those but yet to select one. Which one did you get?
Alex, LWTM, 6'2" 48yo, 100m 17.7, 1min 340m, 500m 1:31.9, 1km 3:16.3, 2km 6:53.0, 5km 17:59.8, 6km 22:20.4, 30' 7958m, 10km 38:18.6, 60' 15,286m, HM 1:24:08.5, FM 3:08:12.8

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