Max heart rate

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Max heart rate

Post by wpuk » July 18th, 2021, 12:10 pm

What would be a reliable way to get a max heart reading on a rower (I haven't updated mine in a while)

Previously I'd just go a treadmill go balls out and have the incline slowly creep up.

Running's not an option now, is there a "best" way to do it on a rower?

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Re: Max heart rate

Post by Tsnor » July 18th, 2021, 10:23 pm

Max heart rate is sport dependent. So you are correct, for rowing you want to get a different max HR then the treadmill one.

Since max heart rate is exactly that, and it does not change as you get more fit, you just need to keep track of the highest HR you've seen rowing/erging.

You do need at least 10 mins of warmup / hard work to set a max. And the piece where you set it typically needs to be over 4 mins or your heart does not have a chance to rise to max.

Consider doing four 2K intervals with 3 mins rest between them. If you push hard towards the end of the second or third interval you will very likely hit your max HR. Depending on your warmup it will be the second or third interval, likely not the first. Might even be the fourth.

(note to new rowers: People new to rowing and who also have strong aerobic training from cycling or running may not be able to set a max HR until they get their back/abs to the point they can use all that oxygen)

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Re: Max heart rate

Post by jamesg » July 19th, 2021, 1:46 am

What would be a reliable way to get a max heart reading on a rower
Depends on your style. If you pull a big stroke, after a 10 minute warm-up any distance over 3-400m can show MHR and cause failure.

5-minute 2'R intervals done at increasing ratings, the first 1-2 at warmup level, seems to integrate training with checks on style and MHR. This to failure can be done once a week.
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Re: Max heart rate

Post by wpuk » July 19th, 2021, 6:04 am

Thank you.

It was mainly due to having not checked it for a good 10 years and I was aware it decreases as you get older.

I wasn't aware I needed to adjust it to be sport specific - thank you.

I'll try interval approach with a couple aimed at being +4 minutes

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Re: Max heart rate

Post by hjs » July 19th, 2021, 8:02 am

wpuk wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 6:04 am
Thank you.

It was mainly due to having not checked it for a good 10 years and I was aware it decreases as you get older.

I wasn't aware I needed to adjust it to be sport specific - thank you.

I'll try interval approach with a couple aimed at being +4 minutes
Its not sport specific perse. But more training specific.

Re your max, do a 20 min piece, and go for broke in the last 5 min. Should give you a good idea.

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Re: Max heart rate

Post by GlennUk » July 19th, 2021, 8:35 am

FWIW I did a specific HRmax test, increasing paces until failure and the max HR recorded was not a true HR max.

When i looked back over my C2 logbook and prior to starting restricted HR/SR/pace regime i'm following, my HR regularly exceeded the value i saw during the specific test which made me somewhat suspicious it was not correct.

The value i am using as my HRmax now was observed following a a CTC entry (3miles 3min rest, 2miles 2min rest, 1mile) towards the last 1 min 20 of the final mile, for me this was an exercise over a period of 43minutes of rowing plus resting times, the point being you may want to do a couple of tests to try to get a true reflection of HRmax rather than use a single event.
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Re: Max heart rate

Post by Dangerscouse » July 19th, 2021, 10:54 am

Glenn makes a good point. I find my HR only really seems to max out when I do circa 16k+, but my HR is unusual and is probably best described as lazy.

It is defo worth doing a few different types of sessions to really test you, as I have failed at circa 165 despite an assumed max of 175. I say assumed as I have seen it a couple of times, but I've not had a formal test done.
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Re: Max heart rate

Post by ampire » July 19th, 2021, 3:25 pm

I saw the highest I've seen to date doing an all out 5km time trial at R30. Heart rate reached low 190s and stayed in that region for the final 5 minutes of the piece, it didn't go any higher, I figured that was my max.
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