New Deadlift Record 501kg

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New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by Gammmmo » May 2nd, 2020, 3:08 pm

Haffthor Bjornsson takes Eddie Hall's WR by 1kg! He was reputedly going to go for 520kg or 530kg afterwards but called it a day. 501kg came up OKish....so maybe Thor deliberately left some headroom OR the 501kg was harder than he thought. Hmmmm.....

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Another point of conjecture is the fact that he did it out of competition although all weights were weighed and they had independent judges. I think lifts should indeed be done in competition to count as a WR but in this case given the lifts Thor has done recently and the fact that he seemed in a far better way than Eddie Hall afterwards, I do think the man with the new record genuinely is the best.
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by Dangerscouse » May 2nd, 2020, 5:16 pm

Yeah, I watched that on YouTube. It looked to me that he could maybe have done 510kg. Mind boggling to think his second 'warm up' lift was the WR only circa six years ago.

Thor looked very impressive and I would like to see the boxing match with Eddie Hall that he mentioned.
46 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,331m HM= 1:18:25; FM= 2:45:49; 50k= 3:21:14; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by Gammmmo » May 4th, 2020, 3:29 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 5:16 pm
Yeah, I watched that on YouTube. It looked to me that he could maybe have done 510kg. Mind boggling to think his second 'warm up' lift was the WR only circa six years ago.

Thor looked very impressive and I would like to see the boxing match with Eddie Hall that he mentioned.
haha...yeah they're really cashing in with the publicity stunts and social media now! Some of it starts becoming a bit more of a circus. Suppose they have to cash in while still young enough for those aspects of where they will take their careers.

Further to what I was saying about Thor being stronger...Eddie Hall was a good 5-6 stone heavier IIRC when he won WSM and did the 1/2 tonne deadlift and has "slimmed down" now. He had to put on that weight. Contrast that with Thor who is naturally a bigger guy...doesn't really look fat to anything like the degree.
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by hjs » May 4th, 2020, 4:32 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 5:16 pm
Yeah, I watched that on YouTube. It looked to me that he could maybe have done 510kg. Mind boggling to think his second 'warm up' lift was the WR only circa six years ago.

Thor looked very impressive and I would like to see the boxing match with Eddie Hall that he mentioned.
That 501 was on the edge, the attempt before still looked “easy”. We should not forget how unbelieveble hard these lifts are on the body. Eddy Hall, almost thought, he would die after his 500kg record.

He weighed in at 205 kg :wink:

Compared to some guys in the lower weight cat. these guys do not seem to have an ideal build for deadlifting.

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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by lindsayh » May 4th, 2020, 7:25 am

I don't know anything about it but heard someone say today that you can't use straps for a WR? (also repeated above about not being in competition)
Still amazing thing to do
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by JMac » May 4th, 2020, 7:34 am

lindsayh wrote:
May 4th, 2020, 7:25 am
I don't know anything about it but heard someone say today that you can't use straps for a WR? (also repeated above about not being in competition)
Still amazing thing to do
I think this deadlift WR is under strongman rules and allows equipment assistance (straps and suit) and hitching. I believe Benny Magnusson holds the raw (belt only and no hitching) record at 460kg.
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by T_M » May 4th, 2020, 12:13 pm

hjs wrote:
May 4th, 2020, 4:32 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 5:16 pm
Yeah, I watched that on YouTube. It looked to me that he could maybe have done 510kg. Mind boggling to think his second 'warm up' lift was the WR only circa six years ago.

Thor looked very impressive and I would like to see the boxing match with Eddie Hall that he mentioned.
That 501 was on the edge, the attempt before still looked “easy”. We should not forget how unbelieveble hard these lifts are on the body. Eddy Hall, almost thought, he would die after his 500kg record.

He weighed in at 205 kg :wink:

Compared to some guys in the lower weight cat. these guys do not seem to have an ideal build for deadlifting.
The DL can be a pretty deceptive lift. I did a test a couple of weeks ago that felt like an absolute max effort...but when I saw the video of of the lift my wife recorded, I was surprised how fast the bar moved. My son said I could have gotten two or three reps...I said no way!
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by KeithT » May 6th, 2020, 4:13 pm

I can wrap my head around 501 pounds but not 501 Kilos - insane!! I watched - to me its a record as weights were weighed and it was a good lift.
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by rtbrouwer » May 7th, 2020, 10:51 am

There is no doubt that Thor did the heaviest deadlift in the world. But records are only set in sanctioned competetitions. To me this is a good comparison with the sub 2 hour marathon. For sure the fastest marathon ever, first man under 2 hours. But not an official record.
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YB: 500m 1:24.8 - 1k 0:00 - 2k 6:48 - 5k 18:34 - 6k 21:59 - 30m 8064m - 10k 38:09 60m 15771 HM 1:20:45

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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by Gammmmo » May 7th, 2020, 11:05 am

rtbrouwer wrote:
May 7th, 2020, 10:51 am
There is no doubt that Thor did the heaviest deadlift in the world. But records are only set in sanctioned competetitions. To me this is a good comparison with the sub 2 hour marathon. For sure the fastest marathon ever, first man under 2 hours. But not an official record.
Yeah I thought of that comparison too. I think it will be done again in a sanctioned event with the next year or two....I also think someone else will be in the mix too. Standard just move on...
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by rtbrouwer » May 7th, 2020, 11:22 am

Gammmmo wrote:
May 7th, 2020, 11:05 am
rtbrouwer wrote:
May 7th, 2020, 10:51 am
There is no doubt that Thor did the heaviest deadlift in the world. But records are only set in sanctioned competetitions. To me this is a good comparison with the sub 2 hour marathon. For sure the fastest marathon ever, first man under 2 hours. But not an official record.
Yeah I thought of that comparison too. I think it will be done again in a sanctioned event with the next year or two....I also think someone else will be in the mix too. Standard just move on...
Amen, I think that aerobic records are much more evolved then strength records. There is more progress to be made on the strength side so records will keep being broken the next couple of years.....
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YB: 500m 1:24.8 - 1k 0:00 - 2k 6:48 - 5k 18:34 - 6k 21:59 - 30m 8064m - 10k 38:09 60m 15771 HM 1:20:45

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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by Dangerscouse » May 7th, 2020, 12:53 pm

rtbrouwer wrote:
May 7th, 2020, 10:51 am
There is no doubt that Thor did the heaviest deadlift in the world. But records are only set in sanctioned competetitions. To me this is a good comparison with the sub 2 hour marathon. For sure the fastest marathon ever, first man under 2 hours. But not an official record.
I can't see what the problem is. Thor did this properly witnessed and officiated with no competitive advantage. On the other hand, the sub two hour marathon was done with a lot of competitive advantage and couldn't be replicated in a race so that result, as mind blowingly great as it was, imo, can't be compared to Thor's effort. If anything, there is slightly less advantage to Thor as he wasn't surrounded by a large cheering crowd boosting his performance.

Also JDS's 2k WR was set at the Australian Olympic Time Trials, not a competition.
46 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,331m HM= 1:18:25; FM= 2:45:49; 50k= 3:21:14; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by Gammmmo » May 7th, 2020, 1:08 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 7th, 2020, 12:53 pm
If anything, there is slightly less advantage to Thor as he wasn't surrounded by a large cheering crowd boosting his performance.
Maybe he got an advantage from that because that's what he prefers.

I think the worry is that future attempts "behind closeed doors" are more open to the potential of cheating.
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by MartinSH4321 » May 7th, 2020, 1:19 pm

I'm with Stu, as far as I know there were independent referees and official weights, the Marathon WR was done with advantages which are not allowed at official runs (esp. pace maker, wind shadow).
But it's a fair point that at attempts behind closed doors cheating is more likely (I don't think Thor cheated).
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Re: New Deadlift Record 501kg

Post by rtbrouwer » May 7th, 2020, 2:21 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 7th, 2020, 12:53 pm
I can't see what the problem is. Thor did this properly witnessed and officiated with no competitive advantage. On the other hand, the sub two hour marathon was done with a lot of competitive advantage and couldn't be replicated in a race so that result, as mind blowingly great as it was, imo, can't be compared to Thor's effort. If anything, there is slightly less advantage to Thor as he wasn't surrounded by a large cheering crowd boosting his performance.

Also JDS's 2k WR was set at the Australian Olympic Time Trials, not a competition.
I get where you are comming from but I think we all know that competition is different then your own safe training environment. Many athletes have set weightlifting records in gyms but competition is harder. I don't know the exact rules in deadlift competitions but I know in weightlifting that you have to choose your weight during the competition and then you have a 1 minute slot to complete your lift. You only have three try's so if one fails then you have to be more carefull with the other lifts if you want to have a decent score up. Competitions have doping tests.

Did Thor dictate his own timeframe or did the judges call him out of the warm-up area and did he have only 3 attempts, or did he even make 3 lifts at all of just one? Was he tested for doping? He probably didn't even have to worry about getting a good score up because it wasn't a competition at all, he just had one target lift. Didn't have to worry about second place or other competitors. It was a single lift effort for 501kg, fail or make it. Maybe if he went into a real competition with that effort and he has the crowd cheering him on with some extra adrenaline he might be able to pull 520kg. But let's see it first.

Once again, very impressive lift but for me there is a difference between efforts in competition and out of competition. Not that one is better then the other. There is just a difference.
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