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Post by mjlawton » October 7th, 2018, 10:30 pm

Hi everyone,
I just bought a used Model D for at home use. I am completely new to rowing, although I have used one in gyms a few times over the years. A bit about me...I will be 59 next month, was a stay at home mom but both boys are in 20s now and husband is retired, so I have plenty of time to train. We live in Michigan spring through fall and winters in the florida keys. Hoping I can fit the rower in the truck when we drive down this year :). I have been athletic all of my life and have been doing sprint triathlons for 2 years. Just ran my first 10k this fall. Was looking for something different to try to tone more vs. just cardio. Intend to continue Tri training plus the rowing. I am starting from scratch...not familiar with terms used on forums, best way to train, etc. I am very competitive, so I would love to work up to possibly competing in some capacity, either on line challenges or races some day. Is the beginner Pete Plan a good place to start my rowing training? What is best way to learn the lingo (books, forums, etc.)? Most I have rowed at once thus far is a 5000m at the gym as part of a bingo challenge. Took about 28 min, with no previous rowing in recent years. Would love some advice as to how to start and learn quickly. Thank you! Janet
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Re: Introduce yourself

Post by Citroen » October 8th, 2018, 2:13 am

mjlawton wrote:
October 7th, 2018, 10:30 pm
Is the beginner Pete Plan a good place to start my rowing training? What is best way to learn the lingo (books, forums, etc.)?
Pete's beginners plan is intended for new rowers.

Jargon buster here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38 & here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=110942

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Post by lindsayh » October 8th, 2018, 5:01 am

have a look too above in the Training sub forum and in particular at the "newbie" threads and the questions they pose and have answered. Lots of really good information. There is a Pete Plan thread that includes a lot of BPP users as well and how they approach the sessions. You could post sessions there for feedback and in particular for feedback/encouragement/inspiration.
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Post by jackarabit » October 8th, 2018, 12:19 pm

Janet, Pete Beginner ratchets up volume (meters per session and per week) quite rapidly. For “absolute” beginning rowers, 26 wks. of uninterrupted forward progress eggs to apples is not a foregone conclusion. Both men and women struggle with weekly volume increase.

The PBP schedule of pace improvement is by contrast self-regulating and consequently more tailored to individual fitness level at commencement of training.

3 sessions a week avoiding the optional work until week 8 to 10 is a good idea imo. Progressive is the operative word in progressive training overload so avoid the newby temptation to prove oneself on day 1. No one should be embarrassed to find PBP difficult to complete the first time thru.

Lot of shop talk on this forum—most of It by male contributors. There have been sporadic attempts by women to discuss their training. There is no impediment to starting a ladies triathlete thread. :idea: Just a thought.
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Re: Introduce yourself

Post by mjlawton » October 9th, 2018, 10:40 am

Thanks for the suggestions. I found the jargon threads after I posted. Did the 5000m 1st day of BPP today. 26min25sec, 2:38 pace, 28 s/m. I tend to want to row short and quick vs long and slower although I know I need to do the latter. Set at 5 with drag of about 115. Might try slightly higher drag and see what difference it makes. I still intend to continue the Tri training as well, although letting up some for fall/winter. Running further than 3 miles creates some physical issues and my HR skyrockets with running, thus I wanted to try something different to improve my aerobic base for racing. Cannot run any distance without HR going to 160 or higher. When I completed the 5000m it was 165 but averaged 148. Actually wearing holter monitor today to verify there aren't any heart issues as my HR averaged 180 for over an hour during my 10k race. Any tips on maintaining a slower s/m but good pace are welcome. I have watched the technique videos and am trying to use legs vs arms. Thanks! - Janet
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Post by jackarabit » October 9th, 2018, 2:56 pm

Any tips on maintaining a slower s/m but good pace are welcome.
At drag factor 115, rate of flywheel deceleration is too high to allow you to employ low s/m (19-21 spm). Set the drag factor DOWN to 105-110 and you’ll have more time to recover slowly after each drive with less inertial loading of the flywheel at the catch. If you set the df higher than your current 115, your strokes per minute will tend to rise still higher to keep the inertial load manageable.

No such critter as a slow s/m. Lower or higher yes. Pace is slower or faster.
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Post by mjlawton » October 9th, 2018, 11:39 pm

Appreciate the correction on the terminology :). I will double check the drag and adjust as you suggested. Thanks!
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Post by jackarabit » October 10th, 2018, 8:57 am

You should try higher drag also, of course. Need to find out for yourself! The majority of us, faced with a new athletic or fitness challenge, are unprepared to produce technical mastery and efficiency right out of the blocks. Learning to talk the talk and giving consideration to the views of those with more experience can be a shortcut to understanding means and ends but can also present as confusion and contradiction. The body learns by doing and evolving. However far-reaching or limited the intellectual grasp, the body is the site of the true knowing how and knowing why.
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Re: Introduce yourself

Post by mjlawton » October 11th, 2018, 11:15 am

Reduced my DF to 100 and did both a 500m TT for a benchmark (2:13.8, 34 s/m) and 6 X 500 2Rest for day 2 of BPP (avg. around 2:28, S/m 24). Pace improved from just 2 days ago, so I will keep playing with DF to determine what works best for me and keep focusing on technique. Thanks for all of the suggestions!

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Post by jackarabit » October 12th, 2018, 1:28 pm

Janet, take a look at the PP thread in Training subforum as per Lindsay’s rec. Lots of pointers, feedback, and camaraderie. The PBP guys are a minority there but Mike F. will make certain you get specific advice and support for your training goals.
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