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A section for training journals?

Post by Big J » January 13th, 2021, 6:37 pm

I've always logged my training when I've been doing any sport. I find it useful to refer back to and motivational to read other peoples logs.

Could we please have a training journal section on the forum? I enjoy the 'what training have you done today?' section but find it extremely difficult to keep track of what other people are doing when their sessions appear in a disjointed and non-continuous fashion.
36. 2.03m. 120kg. Rowing since Oct 2020.

100m - 15.0. 500m - 1:22.5. 1000m - 3:02.5. 2000m - 6:33.9. 5k - 16:58.0. 30 minutes - 8471m. 30r20 - 8422m. 10k - 35:37

Begrudgingly accepting that I might be better at rowing that lifting weights :lol:

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by Citroen » January 13th, 2021, 7:39 pm

It's not going to happen. Set up your own stuff on a Wordpress site.

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by Big J » January 13th, 2021, 7:57 pm

Citroen wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 7:39 pm
It's not going to happen. Set up your own stuff on a Wordpress site.
That's a shame. It seems like an odd omission for the site as all the strength/fitness sites I've been on previously have had a training log section.

It's very hard to build up a picture of other people's training patterns from snippets on the 'today's training' thread. Equally, given that rowing is a new endeavour for me, it would be helpful if more experienced rowers could look at my training and pass comment on it.
36. 2.03m. 120kg. Rowing since Oct 2020.

100m - 15.0. 500m - 1:22.5. 1000m - 3:02.5. 2000m - 6:33.9. 5k - 16:58.0. 30 minutes - 8471m. 30r20 - 8422m. 10k - 35:37

Begrudgingly accepting that I might be better at rowing that lifting weights :lol:

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by Ombrax » January 14th, 2021, 12:24 am

Big J wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 7:57 pm
Equally, given that rowing is a new endeavour for me, it would be helpful if more experienced rowers could look at my training and pass comment on it.
I'm neither for nor against folks posting training logs on the forum, but if you have specific questions about your own training then I think the best thing is to simply start a thread where you describe your situation and ask for help or advice. There are plenty of people here who would be more than happy to help.

As I'm sure you already know, there are several different "Training Plans" out there, and the C2 site also provides lots of guidance on the topic. There are also some online coaching resources available (for a fee).

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by robbiep » January 14th, 2021, 2:59 am

Big J wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 7:57 pm


it would be helpful if more experienced rowers could look at my training and pass comment on it.
If you want people to be able to look at your training, then you can adjust settings in your profile

See my profile link below for an example
https://log.concept2.com/profile/41592/log

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50+ PBs : (recent in red)
100m 17.0 / 500m 1:36.3 / 1k 3:32.2 / 2k 7:29.9 / 5k 19:51.7 / 6k 23:53.3 / 10k 41:36.4
HM 1:29:38.2 / 1 min 310m / 30 min 7407m / 60 min 14124m

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by robbiep » January 14th, 2021, 2:59 am

Big J wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 7:57 pm


it would be helpful if more experienced rowers could look at my training and pass comment on it.
If you want people to be able to look at your training, then you can adjust settings in your profile

See my profile link below for an example
https://log.concept2.com/profile/41592/log

51 HWT M
50+ PBs : (recent in red)
100m 17.0 / 500m 1:36.3 / 1k 3:32.2 / 2k 7:29.9 / 5k 19:51.7 / 6k 23:53.3 / 10k 41:36.4
HM 1:29:38.2 / 1 min 310m / 30 min 7407m / 60 min 14124m

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by MartinSH4321 » January 14th, 2021, 3:24 am

Big J wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 6:37 pm
I've always logged my training when I've been doing any sport. I find it useful to refer back to and motivational to read other peoples logs.

Could we please have a training journal section on the forum? I enjoy the 'what training have you done today?' section but find it extremely difficult to keep track of what other people are doing when their sessions appear in a disjointed and non-continuous fashion.
If you use the C2 logbook you can add others as training partners and can see their uploaded trainings. If they used ergdata or ergzone to upload the training you can also see their workout graphs (if you don't know the C2 logbook: it's a graph of the workout with pace, SPM and HR if available). I like it, to see what others do can be an extra motivation :)
1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 176
LP: 1:06 100m: 14.0 1': 387m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:51
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by Big J » January 14th, 2021, 4:26 am

Hmmm.

Respectfully, I think you guys are missing the point slightly.

Having one section of the forum where individuals can log their training (beyond simply the numbers) is very motivating for the individual, but also gives space for banter, encouragement and reflection on goals, progress and setbacks.

I was a member of a forum called veganfitness.net (sadly the forum is dead now) 15 odd years ago when I was weightlifting a lot more. The years of training logs on there are something I still look back at sometimes for reference or sometimes just for nostalgia. It's not just about the data - it's a great way to chart a person's progression in a sport.
36. 2.03m. 120kg. Rowing since Oct 2020.

100m - 15.0. 500m - 1:22.5. 1000m - 3:02.5. 2000m - 6:33.9. 5k - 16:58.0. 30 minutes - 8471m. 30r20 - 8422m. 10k - 35:37

Begrudgingly accepting that I might be better at rowing that lifting weights :lol:

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by hjs » January 14th, 2021, 4:45 am

Big J wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 4:26 am
Hmmm.

Respectfully, I think you guys are missing the point slightly.

Having one section of the forum where individuals can log their training (beyond simply the numbers) is very motivating for the individual, but also gives space for banter, encouragement and reflection on goals, progress and setbacks.

I was a member of a forum called veganfitness.net (sadly the forum is dead now) 15 odd years ago when I was weightlifting a lot more. The years of training logs on there are something I still look back at sometimes for reference or sometimes just for nostalgia. It's not just about the data - it's a great way to chart a person's progression in a sport.
There used to be a Uk Forum with just what you ask for, was super active, some people are great tellers... 75% of activity was on those blogs..... That company was solled and the new owner killed if off :|

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by Citroen » January 14th, 2021, 8:03 am

hjs wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 4:45 am

There used to be a Uk Forum with just what you ask for, was super active, some people are great tellers... 75% of activity was on those blogs..... That company was sold and the new owner killed if off :|
We did ask the folks at Concept2 Inc at the time of the ISS destruction of the UK forum whether they'd add the blogs add-on on here and they refused. It was also around the time that most of the rowing discussions started to move away to be assimilated into Zuckerberg's FaceBorg collective and the traffic on here dropped off like a stone.

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by Dangerscouse » January 14th, 2021, 12:09 pm

Big J wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 4:26 am
Hmmm.

Respectfully, I think you guys are missing the point slightly.

Having one section of the forum where individuals can log their training (beyond simply the numbers) is very motivating for the individual, but also gives space for banter, encouragement and reflection on goals, progress and setbacks.

I was a member of a forum called veganfitness.net (sadly the forum is dead now) 15 odd years ago when I was weightlifting a lot more. The years of training logs on there are something I still look back at sometimes for reference or sometimes just for nostalgia. It's not just about the data - it's a great way to chart a person's progression in a sport.
It is a good idea mate, but I don't have an answer for it.
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:45:49; 50k= 3:21:14; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by nick rockliff » January 14th, 2021, 4:10 pm

Citroen wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 8:03 am
hjs wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 4:45 am

There used to be a Uk Forum with just what you ask for, was super active, some people are great tellers... 75% of activity was on those blogs..... That company was sold and the new owner killed if off :|
We did ask the folks at Concept2 Inc at the time of the ISS destruction of the UK forum whether they'd add the blogs add-on on here and they refused. It was also around the time that most of the rowing discussions started to move away to be assimilated into Zuckerberg's FaceBorg collective and the traffic on here dropped off like a stone.
The UK blogs were great, I joined FB just to partake in Team Oarsome group but wish I never bothered. Inundated with this that and the other now.

Ask them again Dougie, seems to be much more going on here now.
63 6' 4" 103kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by Dangerscouse » January 15th, 2021, 1:49 pm

Big J wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 4:26 am
Hmmm.

Respectfully, I think you guys are missing the point slightly.

Having one section of the forum where individuals can log their training (beyond simply the numbers) is very motivating for the individual, but also gives space for banter, encouragement and reflection on goals, progress and setbacks.

I was a member of a forum called veganfitness.net (sadly the forum is dead now) 15 odd years ago when I was weightlifting a lot more. The years of training logs on there are something I still look back at sometimes for reference or sometimes just for nostalgia. It's not just about the data - it's a great way to chart a person's progression in a sport.
What might be of use for you mate is to sign up to Insta and follow some of the rowers on there. Lots of good info and posts to help you if you're after inspiration, admittedly it's not exactly what you're after, but it might be useful.
47 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:24; 6k= 21:09; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,428m 60mins= 16,461m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:45:49; 50k= 3:21:14; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: A section for training journals?

Post by Big J » January 15th, 2021, 5:06 pm

I'm not interested in Instagram really. It's too much of a focus on the individual.

Let me make the case more plainly:

There are lots of people here who row regularly, incorporating other elements of training into their workouts too. Everyone has different objectives, and naturally, we end up interacting with the people who's training most closely aligns with our own.

With the 'post your personal best' and 'post your training today' threads, it's almost impossible to keep track of what other people are doing, and doubly difficult to post encouragement without missing other peoples workouts.

If there was a training journals sections to the forum (and I'm happy to link a couple of sports forums where it's worked really well), each person would have all their training in one place, and all the feedback, encouragement and banter in one place. It's a much less convoluted way of keeping track of your training, but also the training of others. It's much easier to determine when others are making progress, and how that's happening, because it's all in one place.

I've found that over the years that I have regularly trained, a training journal is the single most valuable thing I can do to ensure consistency and progress. I keep a journal elsewhere, but it's not a rowing forum and this is.

It would be so easy to have a section here for them and I've bet my wedding vegetables that within a month you'd have 50 people posting their training on a regular basis. It's always the busiest section of any sports forum.
36. 2.03m. 120kg. Rowing since Oct 2020.

100m - 15.0. 500m - 1:22.5. 1000m - 3:02.5. 2000m - 6:33.9. 5k - 16:58.0. 30 minutes - 8471m. 30r20 - 8422m. 10k - 35:37

Begrudgingly accepting that I might be better at rowing that lifting weights :lol:

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