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Post by John Hendrie » July 13th, 2018, 4:55 pm

This is a goofy question but I often wonder what the total indoor rowing population is. One must average 1500 meters per day to make the rankings but I'm sure there are many more zealots who fall below that number which is currently about 6900. Is there a source somewhere for that data?

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Post by Carl Watts » July 14th, 2018, 1:54 am

Only a fraction of the total indoor rowing population even knows about the Concept 2 logbook and rankings.

I have been told that there are between 4000 and 6000 indoor rowers in this country alone and yet there are only 79 people rowing more than 1500m a day from New Zealand using the online Logbook.

I would say that you would be lucky if 2 to 3% of users bothered to upload their results, which is a shame because if there was a fully automated system that used the smartphone as a monitor, the results would be fascinating as you would have a huge sample to get some really useful data from and you would see where your performance really stacked up.
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Post by Dangerscouse » July 21st, 2018, 12:07 pm

That does and doesn't surprise me.

I have only in the past 12 months always updated my logbook, and I have been erging on and off for 17 years. Admittedly it's only been for the past 8 or 9 years that I have been really dedicated and erged regularly enough, and with enough distance, to consider myself an indoor rower.

Without modern technology, i.e. ergdata I was very lazy and random in updating my logbook as it is always a gym erg and i often forgot to note down the session. I must have missed off many millions of metres over the years. I assume that this is the same issue for a lot of other people

It is a real shame though as it would be very interesting to see how many people do use the indoor rower over the world.
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Post by Dreadfish » July 22nd, 2018, 1:33 am

Going by what I've seen happening at the two gyms I use there are very few that use the erg for anything other than a warm up or down. The erg I use the most I have looked through the memory to see what goes on and it's very rare to see anything greater than 10 mins. I have seen one other person take a pic of the screen after a session even though mostly their session is like 5 mins. Even when i was at the crossfit gym no-one did any serious work on the erg.
I suspect that most people here (NZ) that are regular ergers either have their own or belong to a rowing club
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Post by Dangerscouse » July 22nd, 2018, 6:51 am

Dreadfish wrote:Going by what I've seen happening at the two gyms I use there are very few that use the erg for anything other than a warm up or down. The erg I use the most I have looked through the memory to see what goes on and it's very rare to see anything greater than 10 mins. I have seen one other person take a pic of the screen after a session even though mostly their session is like 5 mins. Even when i was at the crossfit gym no-one did any serious work on the erg.
I suspect that most people here (NZ) that are regular ergers either have their own or belong to a rowing club
Yeah same here. I ocassionly see longer than 10 mins on the rower but the pace is usually over 3 mins. I very rarely see anyone erging who knows what they are doing, or at least appears to
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Post by sekitori » July 22nd, 2018, 11:21 am

Carl Watts wrote:
I have been told that there are between 4000 and 6000 indoor rowers in this country alone and yet there are only 79 people rowing more than 1500m a day from New Zealand using the online Logbook.

Does that 4000-6000 figure refer to the number of people using indoor rowers or the number of machines available? If it's the number of ergers themselves, approximately 1/10 of one percent of the population of a country close to 5 million people where Mahé Drysdale is a national hero seems like a surprisingly low estimate. And if the estimate refers to the number of ergometers in use, it still appears to be very low. I would have expected the percentage of indoor rowers and people using them in New Zealand to be much, much higher.

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Post by Allan Olesen » July 22nd, 2018, 2:28 pm

I am a member of a Danish rowing club which is much into ergometer rowing. We have 10 C2 model C and D, and they are often all occupied simultaneously when we have one of our 5 weekly "row spinning" classes.

So we have a lot of members rowing quite seriously in those ergometers. I think that only me and one more member have made an account on the C2 online logbook, and the other member stopped logging several years ago.

Based on this, it would not surprise me if the ratio of active online logging ergometer rowers vs. active non-logging ergometer rowers is quite low.

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Post by Carl Watts » July 22nd, 2018, 5:12 pm

4000 to 6000 is the total number of Concept 2 indoor rowing machines in New Zealand and that would include all the Gyms and home Ergs.

Concept 2 would have to move to full implementation of the Smartphone to capture the true number of Ergs as well as users, after all pretty much everyone has a smartphone over here now. Its the only way your going to get the data is to make the smartphone using an App part of actually using the Erg. All the information could then be uploaded in the background. Even then this could be a problem as just about every current Logbook user has their user profile security settings all maxed out so even registered Logbook users cannot see the results. Kind of strange when everyone is okay with splattering their whole life on Facebook.
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Re: Total membership

Post by bob01 » August 11th, 2018, 11:20 am

And most who do row .. do so with too high DF..... bad tech etc

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