running to row equivalents

jzstiner · Post by **jzstiner** » January 10th, 2009, 2:48 pm

Hi new to this forum.
I was wondering what would be the best guess to the time equivalents from running to rowing; rowing to running. I am a 47 yo male with a fairly vast running background. Started rowing about 18 months ago. I gues my question is, if one could row 18:50 for 5km what would the same person equally trained be able to run? Same question for 2km & other event distances?

Thanks Jzs

tdekoekkoek · Post by **tdekoekkoek** » January 10th, 2009, 4:06 pm

You just cannot possibly make the comparison. They are different sports. Sure if you compare the same weight and fitness, you might be able to draw parallels. But in rowing you don't get punished for being heavier. Usually you are rewarded (except if it is just fat). When I as younger I could sport a 10K in 31 minutes, but my rowing was much weaker. Now I am heavier and older and I can barely run at all, but I am a much stronger rower than I used to be.

hjs · Post by **hjs** » January 11th, 2009, 6:39 am

jzstiner wrote:Hi new to this forum.
I was wondering what would be the best guess to the time equivalents from running to rowing; rowing to running. I am a 47 yo male with a fairly vast running background. Started rowing about 18 months ago. I gues my question is, if one could row 18:50 for 5km what would the same person equally trained be able to run? Same question for 2km & other event distances?

Thanks Jzs

Difficult, for rowing power is important and for running a low weight is very benificial. So good rower is mostly not a good runner and vice versa.

tiredboy · Post by **tiredboy** » January 12th, 2009, 10:59 am

In a quiet period before christmas I started a similar thread on the UK forum. there might be some interesting points on there for you: http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... 95#p459795

fabianL · Post by **fabianL** » January 13th, 2009, 4:07 pm

I was wondering the same thing. I think below 2k you should be faster running. This is obvious for something like 100m, maybe less so for 500m, but it holds for me. When you get closer to the mile and 2k distances, the aerobic/anaerobic split between the two sports is more comparable and thus your times start to get closer. I think that you should still be faster running, for example the 2k WR is something like 5:36.6 and the 1500m WR running is 3:26, so even if you had 90s for an extra 500m, you get 4:56.

Obviously, Rob Waddell is not going to be able to run a sub-4min mile just because of his size. Thus, in order to start reaching the extremes in the two sports you need to actually have your body built the right way. I personally think that an average athlete should hit comparable times around the 5k-6k mark and then rowing times start being quicker than running times after that. (Granted, the marathon record for rowing is 2:25.47 and for running is 2:03.59.) This is assuming you aren't necessarily trained or built for one over the other. Once you start training specifically for one of the two sports, I don't think much comparison can be made.

jzstiner · Post by **jzstiner** » January 14th, 2009, 12:39 pm

My thoughts it would be at or about 18-20% faster to run over rowing the same distance on the World Class level overa broard range of distance.

4:44.79 is the WR 2km & 26:17.53 is the WR for 10,000 meters for running. 5:36.6 rowing 2km WR & 31:36.5 for the rowing WR would both be in the range of 18-20% slower then the running WRs.

BUT knowing my running fitness presently in NO way would I say my rowing in 18-20% slower than my running at this time.

I would say most row/runners would look at a 8-10% slow down. Thoughts?

Cazneau · Post by **Cazneau** » January 14th, 2009, 5:49 pm

I'm a recreational runner (jogger) and a relatively new rower. My best running half marathon time is about 1:55, my best running 10k is about 46:00 and my best running 5k is 22:30. I haven't done a half marathon row yet, but my best 10k row is about 45:00 and my best rowing 5k is just under 22:00. But I expect I will see significant improvements in my rowing times if I stick with consistent training for the next year. With running, i could see some improvements with more training, but I think they would come harder, because I have been doing that much longer.

kini62 · Post by **kini62** » January 14th, 2009, 7:11 pm

Been running almost exclusively for the last several years and am now just adding my rower back into the mix for additional "mileage" without the lower leg stress.

That said when I was rowing alot I could row a 5k in around 19:30 maybe a little less.

I've never been able to break 20 minutes running (yet). I plan on doing mostly speed work on the rower so I should be able to make a pretty good comparison once I get into a little better rowing shape while maintaining my running mileage.

I still think I'll be faster at rowing up to 10k then running. Beyond that I'll be faster running.

5'7" 155lbs, 46yo M

Gene

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Re: running to row equivalents

Makes sense for this slowpoke