Breathing through the nose while training

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Breathing through the nose while training

Post by csabour » January 10th, 2012, 12:14 am

Hey guys I made a blog post about something which has really, and i mean REALLY helped me out while training. By breathing through my nose I believe I have made my training more effective, and by keeping my HR low I can increase my mileage every week.

Let me know if you have any personal opinions along with any credentials :D

My post: http://blog.camronsabour.com

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Re: Breathing through the nose while training

Post by slnm » January 10th, 2012, 12:33 pm

csabour wrote:Hey guys I made a blog post about something which has really, and i mean REALLY helped me out while training. By breathing through my nose I believe I have made my training more effective, and by keeping my HR low I can increase my mileage every week.
Very intriguing! Plus, anything that references Tim Ferriss merits my attention.

Do you have training data that you can post on how nose breathing has improved your performance. I'm very interested in the idea of rowing more meters, improving my performance, and not having my recovery times after rowing interfere with my weight training.

Thanks for sharing.

Sol

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Post by Oldcolonial » January 10th, 2012, 3:58 pm

You should know that this idea was tried and rejected in the distance running community in the late 70's. It was supposed to be a poor man's altitude training. I think it was pretty well rejected as a means of improving performance. I don't have any references for the studies that looked into this.
In terms of credentials I don't have any but I been around aerobic sports (middle and long distance running, bike racing, XC skiing) for nearly 30 year as an amateur competitor, hobbyist and more recently as a coach. I no formal training in physiology but know enough about Newton's physics, College Biology and statistics to understand a fair bit of the published research. I am also very new to rowing so much of what I think I know may be useless.

After skimming through the write up I am very skeptical of the Clinical trial results. It does not appear that they were published in a peer reviewed journal nor is any other peer reviewed research cited on the method. For all of the changes shown in the clinical trials link there are no reported statistical significance levels which is also a red flag for me.


Oh, and the video of the guy "rowing" on the blog is very funny.
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Re: Breathing through the nose while training

Post by hjs » January 11th, 2012, 5:30 am

csabour wrote:Hey guys I made a blog post about something which has really, and i mean REALLY helped me out while training. By breathing through my nose I believe I have made my training more effective, and by keeping my HR low I can increase my mileage every week.

Let me know if you have any personal opinions along with any credentials :D

My post: http://blog.camronsabour.com
It will help people who train to hard, breathing through te nose really keeps the session easy/recovery mode.

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Re: Breathing through the nose while training

Post by csabour » January 11th, 2012, 6:17 am

slnm wrote:
csabour wrote:Hey guys I made a blog post about something which has really, and i mean REALLY helped me out while training. By breathing through my nose I believe I have made my training more effective, and by keeping my HR low I can increase my mileage every week.
Very intriguing! Plus, anything that references Tim Ferriss merits my attention.

Do you have training data that you can post on how nose breathing has improved your performance. I'm very interested in the idea of rowing more meters, improving my performance, and not having my recovery times after rowing interfere with my weight training.

Thanks for sharing.

Sol
Sol, personally I have been out of rowing for 4 years, but recently started erging again. I tried the nose only breathing for a 60' piece and held a 2:06 split at 18spm.

I think that as a matter of controlling pace, nose breathing will help prevent over training on the long 90' pieces and give the athlete the gas for another PM workout.

Oldcolonial, thanks for your feedback, I think that 30 years of experience is plenty of credentials if you want to help someone get into rowing or live a healthy lifestyle for the first time.

I believe that personal experimentation is king because all those journals and research are ineffective at going viral and really making a difference in the world. Sad, but true.

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Re: Breathing through the nose while training

Post by Ralph Earle » January 12th, 2012, 8:43 pm

hjs wrote:
It will help people who train to hard, breathing through the nose really keeps the session easy/recovery mode.
I agree - I use it to "force" myself to relax and/or not start out too fast.

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Re: Breathing through the nose while training

Post by slnm » January 13th, 2012, 12:46 pm

csabour wrote: Sol, personally I have been out of rowing for 4 years, but recently started erging again. I tried the nose only breathing for a 60' piece and held a 2:06 split at 18spm.

I think that as a matter of controlling pace, nose breathing will help prevent over training on the long 90' pieces and give the athlete the gas for another PM workout.

Oldcolonial, thanks for your feedback, I think that 30 years of experience is plenty of credentials if you want to help someone get into rowing or live a healthy lifestyle for the first time.

I believe that personal experimentation is king because all those journals and research are ineffective at going viral and really making a difference in the world. Sad, but true.
I've just starting rowing seriously a couple of weeks ago (I dabbled with the C2 at my gym last fall and fell in love with it.) Recently, I was able to nearly break the 2 minute mark for 500m (2:00.8) and I would be very delighted to erg for 60 minutes and to maintain a 2:06 split at 18spm with nose-only breating. I'm very intrigued with nose-only breathing for exactly the reason you site, pace control. And, I'm curious to see if there are health benefits as some websites site. I completely agree with you that "experimentation is king." Having had plenty of experiences outside of the peer-reviewed journal recommendations I know enough to try things that make some sense.

So, for the next month I'm going to do nose-only breathing while I row. I did a couple of short rows and they were a challenge but that's fine. I like the idea of having to slow down and I like the idea of being able to put more meters on the erg if I'm forced to throttle. And, I'm curious to see what gains I make on the erg and in overall conditioning.

I'll report back.

Thanks for the idea.

Sol

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Re: Breathing through the nose while training

Post by Jodi » January 14th, 2012, 9:34 pm

I've recently implemented the nose only breathing while rowing and noticed that I didn't get fatigued as quickly and rowed faster times. I've also tried it for running and think that it is better for pace setting in this demanding activity as well.
Here are a few links that might help:
http://www.concept2.com/us/training/adv ... eshold.asp

http://www.concept2.com.au/training/tra ... ining.aspx

http://concept2.co.uk/training/breathing
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