heavyweight/ltwt

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The_Giant0
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heavyweight/ltwt

Post by The_Giant0 » January 20th, 2013, 10:36 am

Hi,

As you can see from my signature, I am a lightweight. However, I am 6'1.5" and have a ok 30' test (rate capped @ 25). I haven't had the opportunity to test much this season because of injury. I was wondering whether I could every be a truly viable heavyweight in the same way that I am for lightweight. Could I drop a lot of time going heavy? also, a major incentive would be to reduce my chance of injury. This is assuming of course I could get up to 190lbs :?
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Re: heavyweight/ltwt

Post by hjs » January 20th, 2013, 12:08 pm

Depends a bit on your age, just becoming heavy won,t make you faster, your heart and lungs must also be able to give you enough oxigion.
If you are still young you will and can grow, you also should pick up your weights and eat more, but it will take time to grow some quality mass.

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Re: heavyweight/ltwt

Post by The_Giant0 » January 20th, 2013, 1:16 pm

Hi,

Im 19 (nearly 20). As a xc-runner I used to be a lot lighter (2 years ago). I have been gaining about 10 lbs of muscle per year since then. I don't know how much more upward growth I have, but we will see. Its hard to see where my "stable weight" is because I have been gaining and dropping (for racing) and I am a bit worried about letting it float to a not quite heavy/not quite lightweight place like 175lbs where I would be too light for heavyweight but also have a pain cutting weight.
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Re: heavyweight/ltwt

Post by Rockin Roland » January 21st, 2013, 10:56 pm

On the water, power to weight ratio is king. Ideal weight for the boat is around 85 kg average for the crew. No one wants to row with big heavy guys. They slow the boat down too much.
On the erg the big guys rule. Look at the size of the guys that win the Crash Bs (excluding Lwt categories). Many of them are over 110 kg.

I've just posted my 2000m erg time trial, performed at our rowing club, result in the C2 rankings. I'm 51 years of age, 6'3" in height and weigh a very lean 86kg. My 2K erg score from yesterday was 6:29.8 (performed on a static C2 erg). However I noticed that the number one ranked time for my age group in the C2 rankings is 6:15............but this guy's listed weight is 118kg. That's 32 kg heavier than me. At our rowing club, even which such a score, this guy would not get selected in the priority crews. He's just too big for the boats in our fleet and would struggle to get his hands and body around the finish position of the stroke in order to keep up with the others in the crew. His weight would make the boat sit lower in the water, creating extra drag on the boat. Hence the heights on the rigging would need to be jacked up so that the crew can clear their blades off the water.

Therefore big heavy guys are bad news for crews on the water but good news on the erg (unless it's a weight adjusted monitor such as that on a Rowperfect erg).
PBs: 2K 6:13.4, 5K 16:32, 6K 19:55, 10K 33:49, 30min 8849m, 60min 17,309m
Caution: Static C2 ergs can ruin your technique and timing for rowing in a boat.
The best thing I ever did to improve my rowing was to sell my C2 and get a Rowperfect.

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Re: heavyweight/ltwt

Post by Bisballej » January 22nd, 2013, 8:38 am

@RockRol
I have to admit looking for your plug for the Rowperfect (RP) every time you embrace our C2 community with your insightful advice and input.
It's a pity - in my view - that you need to refer to RP every time you post. You may ever so slightly alienate some people, some of which otherwise would listen to your experienced rower input.
Any way, if you need to stroke your sense of being a loner and a trail blazer for RP - go ahead - I am sure there are a few folks out there, just like me, who enjoys the variety of discourse and insight here - even though you happen to sit on a RP, while informing all us C2 folks.
Keep rocking Roland

JB

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Re: heavyweight/ltwt

Post by Rockin Roland » January 22nd, 2013, 10:23 pm

Bisballej wrote:@RockRol

It's a pity - in my view - that you need to refer to RP every time you post. You may ever so slightly alienate some people, some of which otherwise would listen to your experienced rower input.

JB
I have no doubt that my frequent references to Rowperfect on this forum have got many people offside. I can live with that. I don't sell the product so it matters not to me. I do a lot of erging and don't just use a Rowperfect erg but also C2 static, C2 on slides and C2 dynamic(and hopefully an Oartec Slider later this year) at various locations. Hence I like to share my experiences with you guys on this forum. They all have their own pros and cons about them and pale into insignificance when I'm out on the water crew rowing.
PBs: 2K 6:13.4, 5K 16:32, 6K 19:55, 10K 33:49, 30min 8849m, 60min 17,309m
Caution: Static C2 ergs can ruin your technique and timing for rowing in a boat.
The best thing I ever did to improve my rowing was to sell my C2 and get a Rowperfect.

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Re: heavyweight/ltwt

Post by Bisballej » January 23rd, 2013, 8:48 am

OP: I did not mean to hijack this topic. Just wanted to appreciate RR's comments, and caution a bit about letting our ego's interfere.

RockinRoland; your last reply was much more measured and objective than I thought possible... Containing words such as pro and con, as well as several brands of ergs :D
Just yanking the erg chain a bit. Thanks for your row-experienced input. Keep challenging and please keep the fun tone too.

JB

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Re: heavyweight/ltwt

Post by The_Giant0 » January 24th, 2013, 2:57 pm

thanks for the input........ :lol:
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