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Post by cannondalerugby5 » April 5th, 2017, 1:19 am

cannondalerugby5 wrote:Great article Shawn
You are spot on when you highlight all the aspirational,challenging ,distracting points that an ageing athlete faces.
You are evidence of the extreme mental strength needed to reach world class goals.
I passionately want to shed the "middle age spread"
As you righty state I have considered all options,some not sensible or safe.
My challenge is that when I shed fat it appears to leave my face first,not my gut,and I look like shit.
I also enjoy socialising at weekends ,this always involves lots of ales and Indian/Italian food.
That's enough of my excuses,I need a bit of your mental strength and much more focus on what goes in.
The Success of your strategy is plainly evident from your looks and results
Thanks for the "re boot"
Of to check what your 400 lbs deadlifts are in kg :D
It's 182 kg and have just watched you tube video- wow - very impressed Shawn, going to try for 6 as a starter. :o
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Post by hjs » April 5th, 2017, 2:33 am

The "problem" ofcourse re diet, its so far away from what food in general is eaten and socialy you are an outcast if you eat low carb, let alone zero.
Eating no vegetables/fruit goes against everything we get hamered in about eating healthy, although energy wise a child can know vegetables certainly don,t bring energy, planteaters need to eat all day long and bizar volume, think to stay close to home, gorillas.
But looking at western man, general health is so mediocer, almost nobody has a normal weight anymore. Even among kids is looking pretty bad. Now I am living in a not so fat country, in my extended family I can,t think of anyone being obese, m of female.

We humans are very much following the crowd, eating is very much a matter of demand driven. What the big companies sell gets eaten. Just saw a item on tv that lots of fast food companies from the us are coming over. Not that I eat there but still.

Re meat, this ofcourse has a very bad rep. The fat dogma, red meat dogma, animal cruelty, environmental etc.
You need a strong independent mind to pull it off. I even think if you would feed your kids a zero carb diet you would get in very serious trouble with law/school/ etc.
Or think eating lunch at work, eating out, any public outing, the looks you will get........ That alone makes it tough.

But the proof is in the eating. And longer term and also people who are already ok ish fit. Zillions of people start but only a few keep it going for longer. And B lots of people come from a very unfit starting position, for most number one is weightloss, and although important, thats a side effect, health is number one.

Shawn, question, thoughts about your liver? Do you have plans to check that. A very high protein diet is hard work for the liver (glucogeneses), I find it difficult to find studies about how much glucose humans produce themselves. The liver will adapt and get bigger. Not saying thats a problem. More we don,t have clue, foodwise I take doctors seldom serious. Often one glance is enough. If they can,t keep their own body in check.....

For myself, eat relative low carb, but certainly not super strict, feeling not super though, hard work gives me trouble, compared to most 50 year olds my hard work is ofcourse still ok ish, recovery I find below par.
At some point I would try zero carb for a while and see what it does.

Enough rambling...

Yesterday tried a low rate 500, goal sub 1.23 rate 32, but squats from the day before prevented a serious go. Fresh I can do that. Also work on our house still going on, not helping my sleep.

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Post by Shawn Baker » April 5th, 2017, 5:32 pm

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So today's effort was decent but pulled 44 strokes when I need to do 43- so while I hit 1:18.0, I'll need to go again and hit my target- very pleased to be staying strong over last 100m

Afterwards at gym coupled trapbar jump shrugs with 315lbs or so x 3/Penta jumps- repeated x 10 sets

Finished with machine low pulley rows- entire weight stack -5 sets of 3 reps


Henry, only comment I'll make regarding gluconeogenesis is that it is a demand driven process, that is to say your body is not going to convert amino acids to glucose beyond its need at the time- it is unlikely I am eating too much protein as my intake is tightly tied to my need for structural turn over and maintainence via appetite- also we do have some capacity to store amino acids in the muscle tissue for usage at a latter time

Yes, absolutely people just eat the crap food that is ubiquitous and don't even give it a second thought as it stimulates their pleasure centers and it is what they see everyone else doing-fortunately for me, socially I could care less what other people think about what is on my plate and I am happy to talk about it when they ask
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Post by hjs » April 6th, 2017, 2:32 am

Finishes indeed looking a lot better, showing those are indeed "easy" :wink: still. Expect fly and die though again when you go faster. For you proberly the best way.

Re food, I simply can,t find much about this subject. Ofcourse lots to find, but nothing what gives true info.

Atm you are a n = 1 trial. Most people are beginners or start very unhealthy anyway. Nice and well, but not really interesting to me. Loosing weight is not difficult, it can be done on every diet. Willpower is the most important.

Food we eat, in general, is also pretty simple. We eat what the shops sell.

Was in the hospital the other day, vending machines full with sugary drinks, try to buy a low carb meal there......
Told a young doctor, that cholesterol, is nonsence to look at. Ofcourse got a look ;-)

Say you would break a leg or whatever and would end up in a hospital, imagion you asking for your current food. Over here
I think they would simply not give it. :lol:

An obese patient though could get all the sugar he wants..... :wink:

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Post by Shawn Baker » April 6th, 2017, 6:04 pm

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So today I managed to keep rate to 33, but failed to bring the appropriate level of power and efficiency to every stroke and ended up 0.2 of a second slower than my target goal of 1:18.0 at 33- while I am confident I can go below current 50+ WR (1:17.1), I will not try until I reach my target here. If I cannot execute at 33 to my satisfaction, then 36 and 40 will become inefficient flails- I will have 2 blocks this month where I can push it on the rower-after that my focus will go back to more strength work and then return to rowing again- this is a little easier mentally and a slight shift in focus/periodization is likely of benefit-As I continue to get stronger (thank you meat), my interest in trying to deadlift 700lbs again has been piqued and I feel it is very possible based on what I'm seeing right now- If I can, them that would position me to break some national drug tested 50+ deadlift records, which would be cool

Rest of training today was just some easy upper body bodybuilding stuff and 1,000 jump ropes- so overall and easy day
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Post by Shawn Baker » April 7th, 2017, 4:31 pm

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Went out ok, stayed on pace and rate for 450m or so and surprisingly lost it at the end- a little bit disappointing, but I'm walking a fine line right now and need it all to be well executed to make 1:18.0 happen at 33spm

One of my problems is a relatively weak start that usually takes me quite a while to get average down to target pace often 200m or more- so about 10 minutes after 500m row I dialed up some 100m repeats all done from a static start so I can focus on overcoming the lack of inertia- I set a rate cap of 40 and every stroke was full slide- my goal was 1:15.0

Ended up 1:15.4 at 39 spm for the 5 reps I did (on 2.5 minutes rest) could have kept going for many more but I decided I wanted to do some deadlifting today

Despite the fact that my back was honestly still fairly fatigued from the deadlifting I did on Sunday, I went ahead and did some today, I probably would be better recovered if I waited 2-3 more days, but the rowing goals compressed things a bit

Approximately 30 minutes after rowing I went ahead and started to deadlift- my first warm up set at 135lb and I could tell my back was still very tired, went on and did singles at 225, 315, and 405lb- my target was to improve upon Sundays 455lbx 10reps (no belt)

I loaded bar to 455lb (207kg) fully anticipating that I might be too tired to get my goal today, as I started I was very pleasantly surprised to see that despite the fatigue in my back the reps were going well, got to 9 reps and was still feeling strong, so I knocked another 3 reps to hit my target of 12 reps today (again no belt and Olympic lifting shoes, which actually turn it into about a 1" deficit lift)- after that I shut things down drove home and ate 2.5lbs of steak

I fully expect rowing tomorrow to be difficult because my back will be tired, but despite that I will keep pressing because even if I cannot hit my target I will still develop some greater fitness capacity in trying
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Post by Shawn Baker » April 8th, 2017, 10:20 pm

Did a 500m today, as expected back too tired to allow me to really push was on a 1:19.0 at 400m and coasted it out- finished at 1:25.0

Just some easy upper body bodybuilding stuff afterwards-nothing special but did manage to hammer curls 75lb dumbell for 25 reps each arm before grip shut me down
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Post by Shawn Baker » April 9th, 2017, 4:52 pm

Bit better today- back definitely still tired- as I push to get stronger in the deadlift, the increasing level of output creates extra deep muscular fatigue far beyond just maintaining strength levels and thus impacts my rowing output- once I get to the level I want to be at (500lbs/227kg 10 reps)- I will go back into maintenance mode for a while and expect rowing to become easier with regards to not being as fatigued

Hit 1:18.1 at 34- but felt pretty good- very quick to recover from it and then on to main workout of 60 sets of 3 reps of various medicine ball slams and throws, each rep designed to be as hard as possible to generate maximum acceleration

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Post by Shawn Baker » April 10th, 2017, 5:33 pm

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Ok power level is now where I want it, and now I'll rate up to 36-look for 1:16.5 at 36spm

This was good as I felt very good from a cardio-respiratory standpoint and HR was pretty darn low for this level of 500m intensity

Gym time involved 24" depth jumps with 20lb dumbell in each hand x 15 singles

24" box jumps holding 50lb DBs in each hand x 15 singles

24" step ups with 135lb barbell 5 reps each leg alternating x 3 sets
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Post by cannondalerugby5 » April 11th, 2017, 8:39 am

Well Shawn
I now appreciate your 20 reps at 182kg, thats very,very strong.
Tried yesterday and stopped at 5!!Thought I would get to 6.
Its a start but hats of to you.
Just cannot imagine getting past 10! :D
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Post by Shawn Baker » April 11th, 2017, 5:43 pm

https://instagram.com/p/BSwfNRSADkR/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDyNN6YhlU

New 50+ 500m WR- fairly comfortable at 36spm-still have a little more work to do a 36 before I move to 40spm- overall decent as I really wasn't feeling super great today- back is still deep down tired from the deadlifts from a few days ago

Will go again tomorrow at likely 36 still

Steve- I've been deadlifting forever- finally starting to get a little stronger like I was 5-10 years ago
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Post by cannondalerugby5 » April 12th, 2017, 12:47 am

Congrats Shawn
The 36 rate looks really conservative
Lots more to come? :D
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Post by hjs » April 12th, 2017, 1:29 am

You improved a lot Shawn, hardly any fly and die anymore, very good.

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Post by Griparn » April 12th, 2017, 2:55 am

Intresting thread to follow! Lots of reading :D

Congrats to the WR Shawn! Im also curious about your diet. Is it only meat all meals? I apologize if it's already mention before.
500M: 1:34.7 2k: 7:12.8 5k:19:06 6k:22.51 10k: 39:55

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Post by hjs » April 12th, 2017, 4:53 am

Griparn wrote:Intresting thread to follow! Lots of reading :D

Congrats to the WR Shawn! Im also curious about your diet. Is it only meat all meals? I apologize if it's already mention before.
Shawn is very active on twitter about food. So for info thats the place.

And yes, meat only 100%

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