New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » March 22nd, 2020, 3:59 am

hjs wrote:
March 22nd, 2020, 3:28 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 3:53 pm
Thank you very much fellas! :D
A big surprise for me to be that fast, definitely my strongest PB, and hopefully a good omen for the coming 500 B)
Guys with a fast lowpull, you :wink: , often need to use the fly and die approach. Use that topspeed, fast first 300, hang on the 4th, and die the last 100.

Ps, how about your other powerstuff? How fast do you run a 100m, what is your broadjump etc. just curious.
Yeah, I'll do that, but it's very hard mentally, propably need 2-3 attempts :)

Last time I did track and fields was in school age 17 and never trained for it (was more interested in weights and martial arts), if I remember right I did the 100m in 11,3 (handstopped by teacher, so almost meaningless), about 6,5m broadjump. We didn't do shot-put, but "ball throwing" (don't know if there's a specific word for that) was my best discipline, could throw it from one soccer goal to the other goal, so I guess I would have been a good javelin thrower :)
Martin, 1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 174
LP: 1:06, 100m: 14.1, 1': 387m, 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43, 5k: 17:58, 30': 8130m, 30R20: 8088m 10k: 37:05
60': 15779m, HM: 1:21:57
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by jimmyshand » March 22nd, 2020, 5:01 am

Just had a look at the logbook for this, Martin - 999 watts, rate 56!

Just a gentle paddle then!
43 years old - 198cm/6'6" - England

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1k 3:15.6 (Jun 2019) | 2k 6:51.4 (Feb 2019) | 5k 18:16.9 (Oct 2019) | 30min 8,016m (Apr 2019) | 10k 37:53.6 (May 2019) | 60min 15,254m (Apr 2019) | HM 1:25:38.4 (Apr 2019)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » March 22nd, 2020, 5:23 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 22nd, 2020, 3:59 am
hjs wrote:
March 22nd, 2020, 3:28 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 3:53 pm
Thank you very much fellas! :D
A big surprise for me to be that fast, definitely my strongest PB, and hopefully a good omen for the coming 500 B)
Guys with a fast lowpull, you :wink: , often need to use the fly and die approach. Use that topspeed, fast first 300, hang on the 4th, and die the last 100.

Ps, how about your other powerstuff? How fast do you run a 100m, what is your broadjump etc. just curious.
Yeah, I'll do that, but it's very hard mentally, propably need 2-3 attempts :)

Last time I did track and fields was in school age 17 and never trained for it (was more interested in weights and martial arts), if I remember right I did the 100m in 11,3 (handstopped by teacher, so almost meaningless), about 6,5m broadjump. We didn't do shot-put, but "ball throwing" (don't know if there's a specific word for that) was my best discipline, could throw it from one soccer goal to the other goal, so I guess I would have been a good javelin thrower :)
500 is short enough, relative easy to recover from.

Re 100m, at school you don,t have to know the exact numbers, but if you are fast compared to the others, you know you are fast.
6.5 longjump without training is pretty good. Should be easily 7m plus with the right shoes and training.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dean Rogers » March 22nd, 2020, 6:10 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 10:10 am
100m PB - 14.1 :D

As I had only time for a short session today and I didn't feel ready for a 500m TT I did the 100m. Erg was perfectly prepared (feet and drag as high as possible, enough weight on the front part, shorts that hold me on the seat), but the body was not at 100% (7 long training sessions in the last 7 days). Nevertheless it was a perfect effort, saw an 1:06 LP and crushed my previous PB by 0.3''. Now I'm sure to reach 14.0, hopefully a little bit more :wink:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
Excellent that is Mr Martin. 14.1 very strong pulling.

Keep it up. I’m yet to break the 15 second barrier but no gyms open and I don’t have a rower at home.

When you say ‘feet as high as possible’ do you mean you set the feet so your heel is as high as the machine allows it to go? Does that help in sprints?
What do you weight the front with? I have noticed Ona. Few occasions that the erg jumps slightly when doing the big pulls on 100m.

Cheers Dean
Male 41, 6’1,HW 98kg. PB’s 100m-15.3, 500m-1:21.4,1000m-tbc!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » March 22nd, 2020, 7:36 am

Dean Rogers wrote:
March 22nd, 2020, 6:10 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 10:10 am
100m PB - 14.1 :D

As I had only time for a short session today and I didn't feel ready for a 500m TT I did the 100m. Erg was perfectly prepared (feet and drag as high as possible, enough weight on the front part, shorts that hold me on the seat), but the body was not at 100% (7 long training sessions in the last 7 days). Nevertheless it was a perfect effort, saw an 1:06 LP and crushed my previous PB by 0.3''. Now I'm sure to reach 14.0, hopefully a little bit more :wink:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
Excellent that is Mr Martin. 14.1 very strong pulling.

Keep it up. I’m yet to break the 15 second barrier but no gyms open and I don’t have a rower at home.

When you say ‘feet as high as possible’ do you mean you set the feet so your heel is as high as the machine allows it to go? Does that help in sprints?
What do you weight the front with? I have noticed Ona. Few occasions that the erg jumps slightly when doing the big pulls on 100m.

Cheers Dean
I'm no sort of sprinter, but I'm not going to let that stop me venturing an opinion:

The higher feet mean that your force is applied more in line with the direction you want to go - i.e. backwards. If your feet are low, then your drive tends to lift you off the seat a bit.

The downside is that it's harder for most people to keep the back in a good position, especially towards the end of the drive, unless they are very flexible in the hamstrings. Too much lumbar flexion is not a good thing.
49yo, 82kg
PBs (2019-2020): 1k=3:29.4; 2k=7:34.7; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:39; 30'=7534m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:28.22

2020 goals:
1k - sub 3:30; 30' > 7500m; 60' > 14600m; HM sub 1:29.00
2k - sub 7:15; 5k - sub 19:20; 10k - sub 40:00;

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » March 22nd, 2020, 7:39 am

Dean Rogers wrote:
March 22nd, 2020, 6:10 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 10:10 am
100m PB - 14.1 :D

As I had only time for a short session today and I didn't feel ready for a 500m TT I did the 100m. Erg was perfectly prepared (feet and drag as high as possible, enough weight on the front part, shorts that hold me on the seat), but the body was not at 100% (7 long training sessions in the last 7 days). Nevertheless it was a perfect effort, saw an 1:06 LP and crushed my previous PB by 0.3''. Now I'm sure to reach 14.0, hopefully a little bit more :wink:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
Excellent that is Mr Martin. 14.1 very strong pulling.

Keep it up. I’m yet to break the 15 second barrier but no gyms open and I don’t have a rower at home.

When you say ‘feet as high as possible’ do you mean you set the feet so your heel is as high as the machine allows it to go? Does that help in sprints?
What do you weight the front with? I have noticed Ona. Few occasions that the erg jumps slightly when doing the big pulls on 100m.

Cheers Dean
Thanks Dean!
Yeah right, with feet on the highest position I can get more force, and it's easier to stay on the seat (with lower feet it's more likely to pull yourself up in the air and lose contact to the seat). For me it makes a big difference.
I put my bikerg, kettlebell and slamball on the front, as you train in gym) I would recommend heavy weight plates on both sides. This little jumps cost a lot of power, these two erg preparations should help you to go significantly faster, but you also need some practise. The good thing is: you can do several 100m sprints in one training, just a few minutes to recover.
Good luck, hope you'll have gym access soon! :)

edit: just saw Max's post, he's right :D
Martin, 1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 174
LP: 1:06, 100m: 14.1, 1': 387m, 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43, 5k: 17:58, 30': 8130m, 30R20: 8088m 10k: 37:05
60': 15779m, HM: 1:21:57
rowing since Jun18, 4mm in Apr20

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dean Rogers » March 22nd, 2020, 8:20 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 22nd, 2020, 7:39 am
Dean Rogers wrote:
March 22nd, 2020, 6:10 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 10:10 am
100m PB - 14.1 :D

As I had only time for a short session today and I didn't feel ready for a 500m TT I did the 100m. Erg was perfectly prepared (feet and drag as high as possible, enough weight on the front part, shorts that hold me on the seat), but the body was not at 100% (7 long training sessions in the last 7 days). Nevertheless it was a perfect effort, saw an 1:06 LP and crushed my previous PB by 0.3''. Now I'm sure to reach 14.0, hopefully a little bit more :wink:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
Excellent that is Mr Martin. 14.1 very strong pulling.

Keep it up. I’m yet to break the 15 second barrier but no gyms open and I don’t have a rower at home.

When you say ‘feet as high as possible’ do you mean you set the feet so your heel is as high as the machine allows it to go? Does that help in sprints?
What do you weight the front with? I have noticed Ona. Few occasions that the erg jumps slightly when doing the big pulls on 100m.

Cheers Dean
Thanks Dean!
Yeah right, with feet on the highest position I can get more force, and it's easier to stay on the seat (with lower feet it's more likely to pull yourself up in the air and lose contact to the seat). For me it makes a big difference.
I put my bikerg, kettlebell and slamball on the front, as you train in gym) I would recommend heavy weight plates on both sides. This little jumps cost a lot of power, these two erg preparations should help you to go significantly faster, but you also need some practise. The good thing is: you can do several 100m sprints in one training, just a few minutes to recover.
Good luck, hope you'll have gym access soon! :)

edit: just saw Max's post, he's right :D
Thanks for that, all the tips help.

When things get going again will be back at the gym. At home for now with Mrs and my two young boys. (They are taking all my energy anyway!).

Cheers Dean
Male 41, 6’1,HW 98kg. PB’s 100m-15.3, 500m-1:21.4,1000m-tbc!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » March 24th, 2020, 8:54 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 10:10 am
100m PB - 14.1 :D

As I had only time for a short session today and I didn't feel ready for a 500m TT I did the 100m. Erg was perfectly prepared (feet and drag as high as possible, enough weight on the front part, shorts that hold me on the seat), but the body was not at 100% (7 long training sessions in the last 7 days). Nevertheless it was a perfect effort, saw an 1:06 LP and crushed my previous PB by 0.3''. Now I'm sure to reach 14.0, hopefully a little bit more :wink:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
Just saw this - amazing power and great PB!!! I think the sub 1:20 500M is in range.
52 yo, 6'3" 207#
PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 373m, 500m - 1:21.9, 1K - 2:59.8, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.4, 5K - 17:27, 30 min - 8277m, 10K - 36:30, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:20:22, FM - 2:47:46

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » March 24th, 2020, 2:02 pm

KeithT wrote:
March 24th, 2020, 8:54 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 10:10 am
100m PB - 14.1 :D

As I had only time for a short session today and I didn't feel ready for a 500m TT I did the 100m. Erg was perfectly prepared (feet and drag as high as possible, enough weight on the front part, shorts that hold me on the seat), but the body was not at 100% (7 long training sessions in the last 7 days). Nevertheless it was a perfect effort, saw an 1:06 LP and crushed my previous PB by 0.3''. Now I'm sure to reach 14.0, hopefully a little bit more :wink:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
0:14.1 100m 1:10.5 999 3737 56
Just saw this - amazing power and great PB!!! I think the sub 1:20 500M is in range.
Thank you, don't know if it helps my 500m directly, but it's a very good confidence booster. Maybe I'll give it a try this weekend.
I hope fresh legs will help me to get these 0.2 sec faster, but an average of 1:09.5 sounds really daunting :)
Martin, 1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 174
LP: 1:06, 100m: 14.1, 1': 387m, 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43, 5k: 17:58, 30': 8130m, 30R20: 8088m 10k: 37:05
60': 15779m, HM: 1:21:57
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tandstad » March 25th, 2020, 3:31 pm

Boom, 8641😎🥵💪
34YO, 188 cm, 109 kg, NOR. Instagram: jtands
1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 6K: 20:53(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8641m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16672(2020)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » March 25th, 2020, 3:40 pm

Tandstad wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 3:31 pm
Boom, 8641😎🥵💪
:D I knew you'll get 8600+, amazing effort, big congrats!
Martin, 1983, Austria, 186cm / 100Kg
RHR: 43, MHR: 174
LP: 1:06, 100m: 14.1, 1': 387m, 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43, 5k: 17:58, 30': 8130m, 30R20: 8088m 10k: 37:05
60': 15779m, HM: 1:21:57
rowing since Jun18, 4mm in Apr20

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » March 25th, 2020, 3:47 pm

Tandstad wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 3:31 pm
Boom, 8641😎🥵💪
Awesome, the PBs keep coming and all impressive.
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PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 373m, 500m - 1:21.9, 1K - 2:59.8, 4 min - 1265m, 2K - 6:29.4, 5K - 17:27, 30 min - 8277m, 10K - 36:30, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:20:22, FM - 2:47:46

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » March 25th, 2020, 4:06 pm

Tandstad wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 3:31 pm
Boom, 8641😎🥵💪
Fantastic effort and new PB! 👏👏👏
LWTM, 6'2" 48yo, 100m=17.9, 1min=337m, 500m=1:34.2, 1km=3:24.6, 2km=6:53.5, 5km=18:36.9, 10km=38:18.6, 60' 15,286m, HM 1:26:04.6
Goals - 6:50 2km, sub 18' 5km, sub 37' 10k

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by nick rockliff » March 25th, 2020, 4:11 pm

Tandstad wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 3:31 pm
Boom, 8641😎🥵💪
Told you it was there for you now, well done.

Much more to come too.
63 6' 4" 103kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.53.3 30m 8263 60m 16025 HM 79.58.5

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by boatstopper » March 25th, 2020, 6:48 pm

Tandstad wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 3:31 pm
Boom, 8641😎🥵💪
That's a nice score, congrats. Curious to know what you rated at?

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