How fast can I go?

[switalabt]

Hi,

I am 37 years old and I only started erging a few years ago. I started rowing on the water last year. I have about 1.6 million meters on the erg and 500km on the water.

Last year at my towns indoor Erg race I did a 1k in 3:25.5. this year I did the same event in 3:19.7.

I have a good amount of experience in endurance sports, running, triathlon, and so forth.

My question for you is, how fast do you think I ever will be and when will it happen? It seems I am at the age where people start getting a bit slower. On the other hand, I am just getting started with rowing.

I would like to get my 1k down to 3:12 or 3:07 before I turn 40, do you think that is possible?

Thanks for any input.

[iain]

This will depend on your size (height) and genetics, although strength also matters and you might need to do some strength training for a 1k (although it is mainly fitness). I would expect that you would improve for 2-3 years at least of quality training as you improve your efficiency and rowing specific fitness. The 10% loss in power between the years will not be significantly due to age.

What proportion of your physical potential you do achieve will depend upon keeping going, how hard you are prepared to train, how hard you are prepared to push yourself and how much life interferes. A 12.5% power increase on your result from last year to get to 3:12 is a tough ask, but possible. Anything better than that will be really tough as each second is very hard won.

Good luck.

[Sakly]

I started rowing when I was 41, 3 years ago. My first 1k was a 3:24.6, two years later I got a 3:07.8 without specific training for 1k.
I'm convinced to be faster now, but wasn't able to go for a 1k on a good day recently.

The age is less of a problem. It's more about body stats, height and weight, and your strength and fitness you gained in the last years. I think you mainly lack strength, as running and triathlon are not known for building strong bodies.
I'm not the body type for a "good" rower in heavyweight category, as my height is a bit limited and my weight is more middleweight than heavy. I can compensate with a bit more strength than average and I think I have a decent technique, which also plays a huge role.

[MPx]

Basically what Iain says! Depends 1: on your physiology - ie potential and 2: on how hard and smart you train.

Age is irrelevant at this stage for you. I didn't start to erg until I was 40. Didn't set most of my PBs until my mid 50s (including the 1k on your target)...and some of the outliers not until my 60s.

[H2O]

If you have done no specific 1K training you can drop quite a bit. Some years ago (age 60) I dropped the 1K from 3:20 to 3:13.7 from a starting point where I was already in optimal shape for the 2k. I did not even prepare optimally, doing no anaerobic intervals at all. All I did was about five 1Ks in training.
From your background it seems that you are probably biased toward longer distances (same as me). You would have to prepare for the 1K specifically. This would have to include strength training and anaerobic intervals unlike what you are used to from your triathlon background.

I would go for the 2K instead. This is more prestigious and may be more suited to your background. The best 1K rowers are heavier and more powerful than the 2K guys and strength plays a bigger role in the 1K than in the 2K.

[jamesg]

You can no doubt get up to say 5W/kg. Distance and time will depend on style and training.

If you weigh 80kg, that means 400W, which is about 5.23m/s, pace 1:36 (for 500m).

400W means pulling a stroke worth 12Watt-minutes at rate 33, or some equivalent.

[micc2]

You can no doubt get up to say 5W/kg. Distance and time will depend on style and training.

If you weigh 80kg, that means 400W, which is about 5.23m/s, pace 1:36 (for 500m).

400W means pulling a stroke worth 12Watt-minutes at rate 33, or some equivalent.

Thanks, that 5W/kg target is a useful reference. Do you think most people need dedicated strength work to hit that, or can it come from rowing-specific and interval training alone?

Also curious how that plays out across different weights, same W/kg, but different stroke power and rate expectations?

[Dangerscouse]

You can no doubt get up to say 5W/kg. Distance and time will depend on style and training.

If you weigh 80kg, that means 400W, which is about 5.23m/s, pace 1:36 (for 500m).

400W means pulling a stroke worth 12Watt-minutes at rate 33, or some equivalent.

Thanks, that 5W/kg target is a useful reference. Do you think most people need dedicated strength work to hit that, or can it come from rowing-specific and interval training alone?

Also curious how that plays out across different weights, same W/kg, but different stroke power and rate expectations?

You don't need to strength train, but it will very likely be beneficial. Some of us (Nick Rockliff as a perfect example) haven't ever weight trained.

Don't fixate too much on 5W/kg, as if you weigh 90kg this will equate to 500w (1:28.8 pace) which could very easily be too optimistic, as weight doesn't necessarily equate to power. There's just too much to consider to use such a blunt target like that.